[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And my case is the polar opposite. We moved in 3 years ago, know almost all of our neighbors, and everyone gives the "Villages Wave" when we pass by...

Use to do that now rarely get wave back. So I’m protesting and only wave if get wave. Waving matters….

[Two Bills]

My wife and I walked miles on MMP's for many years without problem, as we looked out for our own safety.
What others did or didn't do was their problem.
Nowhere is 100% safe, but using just a bit of common sense, keeps the survival odds in your favor.
Look after No.1 and admire the carnage as you stroll by!

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by jump4

Why such mean comments?

Things always get snarky on TOTV when it rains.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jump4

Why such mean comments?

Maybe cause when somebody not watching where they’re going and almost gets hit they have to post golf carts out of control on MMP. It’s two way street and always will be

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jump4

Why such mean comments?

Mean????? The OP threw that garbage out against the wall, it is pretty much mandatory that someone call him on it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Triker

The Villages descriptions of a multi modal path includes sharing with pedestrians.

Can someone please explain to me why the majority of golf carts do not want to share the path with pedestrians or bicycles. It’s not that difficult.



From the villages website.

Share the Path

"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?” This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis. The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians and skaters. It is not legal…nor is it smart…to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multi-modal paths in The Villages. For additional information, please click on the header of this announcement to read a memo from District Counsel regarding the use of multi-modal paths.
Effective July 1, 2013, The Florida Legislature amended FS 319.14 to allow the conversion of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) to a golf cart. For additional information on the process of converting a LSV to a golf cart, please click on the following link: Low Speed Vehicles.

Something mental happened to people after Covid. They started driving faster and often going through stop signs. I am NOT surprised that pedestrians are in danger on the multi-use paths. During Covid, the roads had less traffic so drivers got used to speeding and reckless driving. They are STILL doing that. Police need to take charge and take back both roads and the multi-use paths.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Just now: going south on MMP to Colony cottage, in sharp turn cart is coming at me in my lane, behind him another cart, in my lane. Both are trying to get by a recumbent bicyclist struggling with the hill. I looked to see if there was any room to swerve - no - curb etc looked behind me, no one, so applied brake forcefully. We passed each other, practically touching mirrors. The carts were obviously frustrated with the slow moving vehicle to take such a chance.

One problem is that many golf carts have a top speed of 20 MPH, but some drivers are NOT satisfied and jack up their governor to (say) 30 MPH. The end result is NO surprise.......there is a lot of passing. The Village Police should determine a top speed and then FORCE compliance Compliance with safety is WHAT Police do (ideally). Maybe the MMPs should have passing lanes in key spots like before a blind curve?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Andyhope

No problem walkers… just walk facing traffic

I do it that way. Big deal if I have to walk on the grass sometimes as the carts pass. The grass does NOT bite.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I walk the MMPs often. There are a few cautions I observe. I walk facing traffic, and when approaching a blind curve to my left, if there is no room off of the MMP to my left due to vegetation, I look over my right shoulder for traffic behind me. When safe I cross over to the right side so I can see, and be seen by oncoming traffic. I agree that all too often someone will barrel around that being mindless to the possibility of a pedestrian.
Likewise, when driving a cart, as I approach a right hand curve, I slow down, expecting a pedestrian or even a very slow moving bicycle. When approaching a blind left hand curve in my golf cart I slow down, expecting someone to come around that turn too fast, and in my lane. I've seen it often enough to know it will happen.

I don't bike anymore, but If I did, I would stay off the MMPs myself. Too many places where there is no "out", where I could avoid the careless speeding cart. Rules are rules and too many people either don't know them, or don't care to follow them. That is true of the MMPs as well as the open roadways.
It's a shame, but it's a fact. 99.9% of the golf cart drivers are careful and courteous.
It only takes one idiot to seriously injure or kill you. Be careful.

Very true, but there is also the factor that some carts have set their top speed higher than 20 MPH.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Very true, but there is also the factor that some carts have set their top speed higher than 20 MPH.

My car can go well over 100 mph... Yet, I rarely go over 75-80... Something must be wrong with my car...

[gorillarick]

Walkers/joggers/runners should walk facing traffic. If you can't pass them (safely) without giving 3 or more feet clearance, then you should WAIT. Sorry hot cart Joe.

Bicycles have the right to the entire lane - Florida LAW - same applies for in the streets.
Many (including me) move to the right to aid passing carts and faster vehicles.
*If I don't move to the right, you should not be passing because there is another vehicle or limited visibility ahead.*
When passing, you should completely move to the left lane giving the bike or pedestrian maximum safety while passing - just like you'd do on HIGHWAY 42 when passing another car.

Be courteous and cautious (safe). Give others as much room as possible.

When the lanes split (single file around vegetation and such), you should not pass.
Reason: there is not 3-feet of clearance as required by FLORIDA LAW.
Sure, the pedestrian can courteously step off the pavement. A bicycle usually cannot for safety and stability reasons.

Please Share Courteously

I bet Tiger Woods doesn't drive like a p-off maniac when going to golf.
I laugh as I think how it screws-up your game.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Mean????? The OP threw that garbage out against the wall, it is pretty much mandatory that someone call him on it.

This subject has gone for 5 pages. So, that shows reasonable interest. Some subjects end up only 1 or 2 pages long. Plus this subject involves SAFETY. New residents might want the opinions of veteran residents on the safety of the MMPs. Many people responding thought that it was a SINCERE question.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Triker

The Villages descriptions of a multi modal path includes sharing with pedestrians.

Can someone please explain to me why the majority of golf carts do not want to share the path with pedestrians or bicycles. It’s not that difficult.



From the villages website.

Share the Path

"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?” This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis. The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians and skaters. It is not legal…nor is it smart…to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multi-modal paths in The Villages. For additional information, please click on the header of this announcement to read a memo from District Counsel regarding the use of multi-modal paths.
Effective July 1, 2013, The Florida Legislature amended FS 319.14 to allow the conversion of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) to a golf cart. For additional information on the process of converting a LSV to a golf cart, please click on the following link: Low Speed Vehicles.

I have 20k miles on my 4y/o cart so I’m on the MMP’s a lot; I don’t have a problem with pedestrians or cyclists; what I do have an issue with is the idiot pedestrians who cannot grasp the concept of walking against oncoming carts or bikes and also those who decide to walk at zero dark thirty with dark clothing on with no lights or reflectors.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

This subject has gone for 5 pages. So, that shows reasonable interest. Some subjects end up only 1 or 2 pages long. Plus this subject involves SAFETY. New residents might want the opinions of veteran residents on the safety of the MMPs. Many people responding thought that it was a SINCERE question.

I might have considered it a serious question as well, until it ended with "it's not that difficult", implying the OP already had some knowledge of the subject.

[kansasr]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

One problem is that many golf carts have a top speed of 20 MPH, but some drivers are NOT satisfied and jack up their governor to (say) 30 MPH. The end result is NO surprise.......there is a lot of passing. The Village Police should determine a top speed and then FORCE compliance Compliance with safety is WHAT Police do (ideally). Maybe the MMPs should have passing lanes in key spots like before a blind curve?

Uh, there is no VILLAGE POLICE. You won't see the Sheriff enforcing anything on the MMP's and while many years ago you'd hear about people getting caught with a golf cart that could exceed 20mph, I haven't heard anything in years.