[NJblue]

Here's one where both cars are doing things right but will be in a crash!

Picture the RAB with North, south, east and west exits.

Car #1 enters the RAB from the South entrance in the left lane with intentions of making a left turn, exiting west.

Car #2 enters the RAB shortl after from the North entrance in the right lane with intentions of going straight thru, exiting south and is driving along side car #1.

Both cars approach the West exit and CRASH!!!

Car #1 wanted to exit and car #2 wanted to continue straight thru.

Who would be the "At Fault" vehicle? Guess this is something for the Sheriff's office to sort out.

In your scenario, the only way for the second car to be alongside the first car is if the second car did not properly yield to the first car as it came around in front of him. He should not enter the circle until the car already in the circle has passed by him. So, the fault would be the second car.

[happyinthevillages]

When you come in to a roundabout. You must yield to on coming in to traffic. Don't just run in and get hit head on.

[skyguy79]

Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek

Bogie -- I'm betting over

Here's one where both cars are doing things right but will be in a crash!

Picture the RAB with North, south, east and west exits.

Car #1 enters the RAB from the South entrance in the left lane with intentions of making a left turn, exiting west.

Car #2 enters the RAB shortl after from the North entrance in the right lane with intentions of going straight thru, exiting south and is driving along side car #1.

Both cars approach the West exit and CRASH!!!

Car #1 wanted to exit and car #2 wanted to continue straight thru.

Who would be the "At Fault" vehicle? Guess this is something for the Sheriff's office to sort out.

If car 2 entering the RAB can see car 1 coming around the circle (or within a reasonably close distance) in the inside lane, then car 2 is responsible for yealding the right of way to car 1.

If car 1 on the inside lane is about to exit and has to brake for, or even come close to car 2 on the outer lane, accident or not, a law enforcement officer who sees car 2's failure to yeald the right of way to car 1 could issue a UTT (Uniform Traffic Ticket) to the driver of car 2.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by NJblue

In your scenario, the only way for the second car to be alongside the first car is if the second car did not properly yield to the first car as it came around in front of him. He should not enter the circle until the car already in the circle has passed by him. So, the fault would be the second car.

Yep.

[damily]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

Not yielding to traffic and makin a right turn from the left lane is stupid!


.

Look at the arrows on the pavement! The right lane should ALWAYS exit and NEVER go through. Now look at the arrows in the left lane. They can exit OR remain in circle. Right lane does not remain in circle! How's your left panel or are you the one who does the Mr Magoo driving test and everyone else has to watch out for you?

[chuckinca]

Stupid is as Stupid does.


.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by damily

Look at the arrows on the pavement! The right lane should ALWAYS exit and NEVER go through. Now look at the arrows in the left lane. They can exit OR remain in circle. Right lane does not remain in circle! How's your left panel or are you the one who does the Mr Magoo driving test and everyone else has to watch out for you?

The arrows that apply are the ones BEFORE the RAB, not the ones in it. They show the right lane can either turn right at the first exit or continue through to the second exit.

I feel the last sentence in your post was uncalled for. If you want to make a point, fine, but put-downs don't enhance your position.

[Happinow]

I can't believe I'm saying this but the round a bouts aren't that difficult to navigate IF you stay in your lane, get in the proper lane, yield and don't suddenly change your mind and cut the car on the side of you off to switch lanes at the last second.

[cappyjon431]

Originally Posted by Happinow

I can't believe I'm saying this but the round a bouts aren't that difficult to navigate IF you stay in your lane, get in the proper lane, yield and don't suddenly change your mind and cut the car on the side of you off to switch lanes at the last second.

As with anything in life, practice makes perfect.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by George Bieniaszek

The most logical solution of the roundabout issues would be to make them 1 lane and everyone would have to merge into 1 lane before entering them. That way, there would be no issues with people making right turns from the left lane or left turns from the right lane.

Oh, this sensible solution that's the way roundabouts are in most other states....has been mentioned so many times and nobody seems to care. Apparently a certain number of people have to be killed first.

[ilovetv]

About the new signs:

The drawings of which lane is to be used for which exits or continuing straight are well drawn and are good, I think. HOWEVER......

Have you noticed that the new signs are so close to the roundabout entrance (only about 2 car lengths before it) that there is NO TIME to change lanes if you're in the wrong one!

The sign on northbound Morse Boulevard and O'Dell (Entrance to Mallory Hill) is a prime example. Once you get to the sign and see that you should be in the left lane and you're in the right one, there is no time to change lanes to make a left turn.

IMHO I think the signs should be set back farther in advance of entering the rab, so you have time to change lanes to get into the proper one. The purpose of having them there gets defeated by being too close to be able to choose the other lane.

Yes, once you've driven it a few times, you're aware, but this place is full of new people who come from states that have SINGLE-lane rabs.

[JoeC1947]

lovetv

I agree. Maybe even painting the arrows on the pavement would help even more.

[memason]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Oh, this sensible solution that's the way roundabouts are in most other states....has been mentioned so many times and nobody seems to care. Apparently a certain number of people have to be killed first.

Are you kidding me???? People killed??? ...at 20mph ???

If the RAB's were converted to one lane with merges before, can you image the backup of traffic in TV?

Learn to drive!

Just sayin'

[getdul981]

Originally Posted by memason

Are you kidding me???? People killed??? ...at 20mph ???

If the RAB's were converted to one lane with merges before, can you image the backup of traffic in TV?

Learn to drive!

Just sayin'

[PaPaLarry]

Seems like the roundabouts spark a lot of attention!!!!! Maybe we need tunnel exits to each gate, like the golf carts have?? hehehehe So many people in a hurry to get no where!! I think everyone is right with their statements. In the winter months, seems like more accidents, or blowing of the horns, (sometimes the educated finger) but it's still going to happen. All we can do is be cautious, and hope the other driver is also. Maybe some of the new signs will help. I think they should have cartoons on front of paper each day, for the do's and dont's. And do it over and over and over again!! Let's all stick around a little longer and enjoy ourselves!!