[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by asianthree

So far only once has information posted on how many times AED was used in a neighborhood. Wondering for those who are lead in your neighborhood, do you keep stats on calls, use, and volume of non used pad disposals?

Would be great information for new startups how many AEDs, and actual use, and losses on expired pads and change of batteries.

Contact Bob Sjogren at VPSD. He compiles the data on AED responses and success rate. Not sure he keeps any information on batteries or pads since that is the responsibility of each Villages program.

Any time an AED is used his group will also query the data from the AED to see how the incident played out.

[neilbcox]

Originally Posted by TVTVTV

Does anyone know if Pulsepoint covers emergency calls in Lake or Marion counties? I can't find any tracker except for Sumter, and no other app for info.

The new Villages south of 44 are in Lake County but calls are dispatched through the Villages dispatcher.

Pulse Point is used to dispatch each Village responders. It shows a map of the cardiac arrest location and where the closest AED unit is located. All responders are notified within a half mile from the arrest. In Newell all responders will go directly to the home to start CPR while other responders will gather the AED system. Our goal is to be at the arrest site within 3 minutes. Villages response time was 5 1/2 minutes last year but the response time to southern new Villages maybe longer than that.

[neilbcox]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You've said that, multiple times... What proof do you have that causes you to disparage those volunteering for the program?

And each Village IS doing their own thing. That is EXACTLY how the program is being set up... Village by Village...

All new Villages AED groups are not doing their own thing. We develop our AED programs with Villages Fire Safety guidance. They are the experts!

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Contact Bob Sjogren at VPSD. He compiles the data on AED responses and success rate. Not sure he keeps any information on batteries or pads since that is the responsibility of each Villages program.

Any time an AED is used his group will also query the data from the AED to see how the incident played out.

Did find this. Log into Facebook | Facebook

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Retired55

This is a different view on an AED program that a group on Facebook is implementing, for the Village of Newell. It is a view no one on Facebook in the Group will comment on for fear of being outcast or attacked. That’s why its being posted here. This is not meant to attack the organizers or anyone who supports or has donated to the program. The organizer has mentioned to the group that some people where opposed to the Program but they do not understand why.

The group wants to install 25 AED devices throughout the Village, and is asking $100 per household.

First, the AED devises are a great Lifesaving tool and I think they are wonderful as I am also certified to operate one. But the program itself is not the issue.

Simply said, a Facebook group should not be making decisions for the entire Village, no matter how good or well meaning the project is. It is just a Facebook group; no one voted anyone in for this. It has created a situation where you are making people uncomfortable and pitting one side against another. This should not happen. The group is aggressively collecting money by going door to door, setting up tables at the mail and rec centers and other ways. Some people do not appreciate that and shouldn't have to explain why they do not want to contribute.

The Village of Newell is a beautiful community, with friendly neighbors who look out for each other and enjoy each others company. While this program is very thoughtful and well meaning, please understand that there may be some neighbors who do not agree, for their own reasons.

I'm sure money can be an issue with some people, and they shouldn’t have to explain that to anyone, or be made uncomfortable because of it.

There are lots of questions about the program itself but that is for a different conversation and is not really relevant to this view.

Please, this is just a different view not an argument.

I am curios what others in the Villages have to say on the issue.

Retired

wow, ok. i am one of those who did not contribute, for my own reasons. if i or someone near me needs lifesaving skills, i want professional emt's. i do not trust anyone to 'work' on me, esp with the fire station so close to the house. i was the black sheep of our block, i guess, because people were coming to the house trying to get me to 'join'. some were offended by me not willing to sign up, but i didn't care then, & still don't today, but the pressure was intense.

[TVTVTV]

Originally Posted by neilbcox

The new Villages south of 44 are in Lake County but calls are dispatched through the Villages dispatcher.

Pulse Point is used to dispatch each Village responders. It shows a map of the cardiac arrest location and where the closest AED unit is located. All responders are notified within a half mile from the arrest. In Newell all responders will go directly to the home to start CPR while other responders will gather the AED system. Our goal is to be at the arrest site within 3 minutes. Villages response time was 5 1/2 minutes last year but the response time to southern new Villages maybe longer than that.

Thanks for your reply. I wasn't clear enough. In the Pulse Point field to "Add Agency" only 'Sumter Fire and EMS' is available. Nothing shows for Lake or Marion Fire and EMS as a choice. I'm not a trained volunteer or responder, so I don't see a way to view incidents in the other two counties. Similar to the scanner info I used to get before encryption. I was inquiring about getting incident info in the other two TV counties, not response time. And thank you for volunteering!

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by PugMom

wow, ok. i am one of those who did not contribute, for my own reasons. if i or someone near me needs lifesaving skills, i want professional emt's. i do not trust anyone to 'work' on me, esp with the fire station so close to the house. i was the black sheep of our block, i guess, because people were coming to the house trying to get me to 'join'. some were offended by me not willing to sign up, but i didn't care then, & still don't today, but the pressure was intense.

Much like a DNR, maybe you should hang post it notes in your house stating only Fire/EMS may attempt to save your life. See how that works out. I get your premise, but at times, hero's come in different packages. I just don't see a scenario where someone enters your home from a group that employs volunteers...fully trained and certified personnel and you're gonna say, 'Nah, I'm good'!

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by neilbcox

The new Villages south of 44 are in Lake County but calls are dispatched through the Villages dispatcher.

Pulse Point is used to dispatch each Village responders. It shows a map of the cardiac arrest location and where the closest AED unit is located. All responders are notified within a half mile from the arrest. In Newell all responders will go directly to the home to start CPR while other responders will gather the AED system. Our goal is to be at the arrest site within 3 minutes. Villages response time was 5 1/2 minutes last year but the response time to southern new Villages maybe longer than that.

we are south of 44, but in Sumter

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Much like a DNR, maybe you should hang post it notes in your house stating only Fire/EMS may attempt to save your life. See how that works out. I get your premise, but at times, hero's come in different packages. I just don't see a scenario where someone enters your home from a group that employs volunteers...fully trained and certified personnel and you're gonna say, 'Nah, I'm good'!

i hear you, & do not mean to disrespect anyone attempting to help others, but i still prefer the EMT's. they're professionals. i will see how it works out.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by PugMom

wow, ok. i am one of those who did not contribute, for my own reasons. if i or someone near me needs lifesaving skills, i want professional emt's. i do not trust anyone to 'work' on me, esp with the fire station so close to the house. i was the black sheep of our block, i guess, because people were coming to the house trying to get me to 'join'. some were offended by me not willing to sign up, but i didn't care then, & still don't today, but the pressure was intense.

If you’re in cardiac arrest you’re pretty much already dead. You’re not going to get any deader by having a trained first responder give you CPR instead of the fire department. What if the station that is so close to you is out on another call? Your chances of survival just went to zero unless someone closer initiates CPR.
Don’t discount your neighborhood’s AED program out of hand. A good many of our responders are retired from the healthcare or public safety sector.
But you certainly have every right not to contribute or participate for whatever reason. We have several in our village with the same stance. It’s okay. We’re going to respond and unless we’re informed that the person is a DNR we’re going to do what we are trained to do.

[CarlR33]

Originally Posted by PugMom

wow, ok. i am one of those who did not contribute, for my own reasons. if i or someone near me needs lifesaving skills, i want professional emt's. i do not trust anyone to 'work' on me, esp with the fire station so close to the house. i was the black sheep of our block, i guess, because people were coming to the house trying to get me to 'join'. some were offended by me not willing to sign up, but i didn't care then, & still don't today, but the pressure was intense.

Yep, people don’t stop to think about those that do not want to get a on a “band wagon” and how it makes them feel pressured. I have a no soliciting sign on my door….I don’t need the unnecessary pressure.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by PugMom

wow, ok. i am one of those who did not contribute, for my own reasons. if i or someone near me needs lifesaving skills, i want professional emt's. i do not trust anyone to 'work' on me, esp with the fire station so close to the house. i was the black sheep of our block, i guess, because people were coming to the house trying to get me to 'join'. some were offended by me not willing to sign up, but i didn't care then, & still don't today, but the pressure was intense.

How about contributing so that someone else's life can be saved? Oh yea, you don't care.

[charmed59]

My understanding is the trained neighbors will respond to any 911 call. I don’t believe there is a way to opt out. So whether you contributed or not, it will not affect who will respond. If you don’t want anyone other than an EMT to respond you need to have someone with you that will turn them away.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by neilbcox

All new Villages AED groups are not doing their own thing. We develop our AED programs with Villages Fire Safety guidance. They are the experts!

Yes YOU developed the program... Just like MY village developed OUR program...

All villages develop THEIR OWN program in conjunction with VPSD guidance...

Unless a village "does it's own thing" and initiates the program, it doesn't get done...

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Much like a DNR, maybe you should hang post it notes in your house stating only Fire/EMS may attempt to save your life. See how that works out. I get your premise, but at times, hero's come in different packages. I just don't see a scenario where someone enters your home from a group that employs volunteers...fully trained and certified personnel and you're gonna say, 'Nah, I'm good'!

Nobody in house is calling 911 on DNR until time has passed to ensure no response is used. Yes it happens, one just doesn’t have that knowledge

You can however refuse any personal that arrives.

Then again wouldn’t be the first time spouse hides those wishes, choosing to ignore and calls no matter what paperwork says.