[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

News Flash

In South Korea people who have gotten the virus and recovered has later tested positive again!

Better that you never get it and hope foe a vaccine 💉

Are those who have tested positive for the second time, sick? Are they symptomatic requiring a ventilator? Or......have their antibodies fought off the virus?

[Bogie Shooter]

A lot of posters on this thread speak as if they read the book "1984" and thought it was a successful case study.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by theruizs

Present this idea to the doctors and nurses dealing with this right now. If they are on board with it (the current nightmare times 2 or 3) then you have a better argument. Also, since this virus hits 65 and older and those with underlying conditions hardest (much higher death rate among them), I think they should have some input too. Finally, I find it hard to believe that letting the virus run rampant will be less disruptive and destructive to our economy. Have you seen the death rates in those countries where it gets out of control? Italy’s is over 12%, Spain’s is almost 10%. However, Germany’ is less than 2% (we should follow their lead since ours is approaching 3%). At any rate, I still value life over money any day. Given everything I have read and heard, I believe a better solution to getting this under control quickly is for it to become mandatory for everyone to wear face masks anytime they are not in their home, period.

It is not known for sure what the death rate is because not everyone is being tested. What about all those people who are asymptomatic? They are not factored in to the percentage of deaths. The death rate is lower if all those untested asymptomatic people are included in the calculations.

[xNYer]

The quickest way to be rid of the CV problem would be to make no changes in our everyday habits, let people catch the virus, and then have about 99% of them recover and thereby build herd immunity rather quickly.

Brilliant 1% of the U.S. population dies so we can get her immunity. 330,000,000 people.Lets have 3,300,000 die. Great option.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by C. C. Rider

That's 2 Million deaths per year just in the categories you listed. And the majority of those deaths listed would be considered as "immune compromised" categories which is precisely the ones that are most susceptible to dying from coronavirus.

So, I think it is reasonable to conclude that the TOTAL number of deaths in the US this year may not be much more than an ordinary year. It's just that the cause of death on the death certificate will say "Coronavirus" instead of "Heart Disease", "Cancer", "Diabetes", etc.

But, they might not of died this year or next year.

[bpascani]

I was reading the stats in Alachua County (Florida) today. So far, 133 diagnosed, 15 hospitalized, 0 deaths. the most interesting is, the most were in the 15-24 and 25-34 year old groups. The least number of cases.. birth-4yrs, and 85+ !!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Drdoug49

Asia has made substantial increases in their standard of living, so your characterization is false. In regards to the overweight TV , the average Korean women weighs 125lbs, the average American women weighs 168lbs.

Maybe in the areas you visit. Try getting out of fancy beach hotel and down the back streets. If our diet was mainly rice, fish, and some kind of little meat _____ (fill in the blank) the average here would weight less also.

[tmiller166]

Over 1700 people die of heart disease EVERY DAY on average. 150 die of pneumonia DAILY on average. Somehow we don’t seem to bother with those numbers in the media.

[tmiller166]

As the infectious disease experts at WHO have said... We are at war with this virus. The virus will win… It will just wait you out.

[Healthiest]

At this point, I think we are on the right path. However, you should read about what Iceland has done. They have very few deaths and I think we could have done that had we been allowed to get the tests from other countries. Iceland is doing frequent testing, putting those sick in quarantine, and tracing where each person caught the virus from. It's been very effective.

My opinion is based on discussions with physicians and nurses working directly with these patients. I've had many friends who are pretty sure they've had the virus, some that were confirmed and have friends who have had family members and friends die from this. The majority of these deaths were people under the age of 50 and no health conditions at all. About 40% of the people hospitalized are under the age of 55.

Unfortunately, it isn't just the elderly and the "immune compromised" who are at risk. Much younger people without any health issues are getting this and dying. Perhaps the elderly and immune compromised were the first to get this, but others are getting it now too. If people don't die, some are left with lung, heart and neurological problems. One friend of mine has a grandchild who was under a year old. She didn't die, but is now left with permanent brain damage.

If our country would have acted much faster and locked things down sooner, that might have really helped. At this point, it will slow things down, but since it seems like we're hearing all over the place that people aren't stopping their gathering in groups, so we aren't truly 'locked down.' The problem with this is that not only will the virus be here longer, it will most likely mutate and keep coming back. Warmer weather doesn't seem to affect it as much, so this will probably turn out to be much more deadly than the flu. When viruses mutate, there is a chance that it could mutate into something even worse.

This virus is very contagious and with the potentially long incubation period and a lot of people with no symptoms who have it, it's easy to spread.

[Healthiest]

Heart disease and pneumonia have been around for a VERY long time. This virus is just beginning. These numbers might not seem much to you now, but they will continue to grow year after year I fear.

Originally Posted by tmiller166

Over 1700 people die of heart disease EVERY DAY on average. 150 die of pneumonia DAILY on average. Somehow we don’t seem to bother with those numbers in the media.

[Darield]

In regards to people under, 60 and especially those under 40, almost no information is being released concerning whether they were smokers, vapors or obese. There have been a few doctors interviewed that have mentioned these things and information through friends and family is indicating that nurses are seeing mitigating factors in people under 40 who are getting very sick (often, those things I just listed). When this crisis is over and more data is released, I think there will be many conversations on the importance of diet, exercise and taking good care of our bodies.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Darield

In regards to people under, 60 and especially those under 40, almost no information is being released concerning whether they were smokers, vapors or obese. There have been a few doctors interviewed that have mentioned these things and information through friends and family is indicating that nurses are seeing mitigating factors in people under 40 who are getting very sick (often, those things I just listed). When this crisis is over and more data is released, I think there will be many conversations on the importance of diet, exercise and taking good care of our bodies.

I think you may mean exacerbating factors

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Mary Windsor

.........May God keep each and everyone safe!

But....that's not happening!!!

[C. C. Rider]

Originally Posted by bpascani

I was reading the stats in Alachua County (Florida) today. So far, 133 diagnosed, 15 hospitalized, 0 deaths. the most interesting is, the most were in the 15-24 and 25-34 year old groups. The least number of cases.. birth-4yrs, and 85+ !!

Do you suppose that the 50,000+ students enrolled at University of Florida in Gainesville (Alachua County) might have some impact on those stats?

How many 0-4 year olds do you think have been tested for CV in Alachua County?

How many people over the age of 85 do you think are in Alachua County? The few that are there probably aren't bar-hopping or partying on the beach, so they likely aren't too exposed to CV unless a caretaker carries it in to them.