[Tnbrewer]

Amen to that !
Glad I am retired and don’t have to work.

[Tom53]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Death rate per infected is not really a good way to judge success of lockdown vs herd approach. 50% of Sweden's deaths have occurred in nursing homes. In the USA its more like 1 in 4. Nursing homes have the people most likely to die, so the percentage of deaths to infected is skewed by this.

Sweden's death rate per million is a lot lower than UK, Italy, Spain, France etc They all had lockdowns too.

Of the 50 European countries, Sweden in number 7 on the most deaths per million, 43 countries had less. I don't know if ALL the rest were in lockdown, but a large number were in lockdown, including Germany, Poland, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, Lithuania, Denmark, Norway, Hungary, Switzerland, etc.

It's all how we choose to look at the stats. Personally, I think the lockdown was the way to go, but a good plan needs to be developed to wind it down.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Travelingal702

Is anyone as sick of these stories as I am? No masks, no social distancing, yada, yada, yada. Yes, we KNOW there are people not wearing masks. We KNOW people are not maintaining their distance. We KNOW people are gathering where they shouldn't. It's their funeral, not yours. We KNOW not everyone is is abiding by the law. So What!!! Stay away from them. Try to focus on some positive things like....what a beautiful day we have. Be happy to be living in America and not some third world country. Be happy that you are free and ABLE to complain about things without repercussions. I look for the good and I don't dwell on the bad. Let's give the complaints a rest, because, in the end, there is really NOTHING you can do about it.

Absolutely agree!

[Cheeks]

Right, you can't fix stupid !

[coffeebean]

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[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by TommyT

Let them gather.... Will be a lot of good homes for sale soon !!!


J/K

Good one!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

You (generic "you" not you personally) don't just "build immunity and antibodies" unless you have the virus in your system. And if you have the virus in your system and show no symptoms you are then an asymptomatic carrier and could possibly spread it to those around you who may not be as lucky as you since most people here are in the most dangerous age group. You just can't develop immunity without having the virus so you might do well but not necessarily those around you who you could spread it to.

Nice and logical.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by TimeForChange

There is a golf group in TV that acks as though they own everything. I won't say the name but they all wear the same color golf shirts on different days. They congregate following golf usually around lunch or a little after at the Red Sauce Bar outside. Many of them are arrogant, and have had problems with some of the ambassadors on the courses. That is probably the group you saw at Red Sauce.

Gang mentality.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

Coffeebean, they can do what they want & the people can do the same, it’s they’re choice. Coronavirus to me is for real, & if these people are that brave let them party. But me like you I’ll do the things where I feel safe. All I can say is if these people want to call this virus a bluff it’s fine with me! Have fun & enjoy yourself.

President Trump is slowly opening up our economy but he is asking Americans to continue to social distance. I don't know....by the looks of the way Villagers have taken a yard when they were given a foot, we may be in big trouble soon.

I get it that people will not be wearing masks at outdoor bars and restaurants. I haven't mastered how to eat or drink with a mask on and I don't think too many people have either. I just want to see people adhering to the social distance guidelines if they are not able to wear a mask whether it be indoors or outdoors.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DONKEY10

And you know what for the most part this social distancing has been a failure. Look at Sweden how they handled it. They let herd immunity do the work . We should have done the same thing. What are you going to do if this happens again later this year or next year? Shut down everything again? No let it roll thru and be done with it. Viruses have been around for billions of years and herd immunity is how we have dealt with them throughout time

Sweden has MORE deaths than comparable European countries. Use the Google machine.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

.....and their death rate is six times higher than their neighbors.
There is a price, and no guarantees whichever way you go.

Correct.

[iaudit]

Originally Posted by Travelingal702

Is anyone as sick of these stories as I am? No masks, no social distancing, yada, yada, yada. Yes, we KNOW there are people not wearing masks. We KNOW people are not maintaining their distance. We KNOW people are gathering where they shouldn't. It's their funeral, not yours. We KNOW not everyone is is abiding by the law. So What!!! Stay away from them. Try to focus on some positive things like....what a beautiful day we have. Be happy to be living in America and not some third world country. Be happy that you are free and ABLE to complain about things without repercussions. I look for the good and I don't dwell on the bad. Let's give the complaints a rest, because, in the end, there is really NOTHING you can do about it.

The only problem with this selfish attitude is that when they get sick, they will be using up valuable medical resources. Even before this virus, emergency rooms in this area had significant waiting times.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Sweden's death rate per million is higher than other Baltic states, but less than many other European countries, slightly higher than USA.

If Sweden achieves herd immunity in a few months, their death rate will drop to almost zero, while lockdown countries will see deaths continue to grow for next two years or until vaccine is developed. In the end they may lose the battle but win the war.

I don't think so.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

What bothers me more is all the snitching that is going on and how some are comfortable with it. Right into the playbook of our enemies. What ever happened to “Mi d your own business” A salon single mom owner in Texas was just thrown in jail for opening her salon to as she said “feed her kids “. This has gotten way out of hand. Absolute power corrupts.

A law is a law to protect the most people it can. That's why there are speed limits.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Death rate per infected is not really a good way to judge success of lockdown vs herd approach. 50% of Sweden's deaths have occurred in nursing homes. In the USA its more like 1 in 4. Nursing homes have the people most likely to die, so the percentage of deaths to infected is skewed by this.

Sweden's death rate per million is a lot lower than UK, Italy, Spain, France etc They all had lockdowns too.

Both the UK and Italy started their shutdown late.