[CFrance]

Originally Posted by DougB

Why all the discussion on who should use the gate and how (toll, yearly fee, Villagers, non-Villagers, etc.) There is only one person who can make that decision and I doubt he cares what any of us think. I like all his decisions so far.

Tell that to the people who are going over the "one person's" head and getting politicians and publicity involved.

I hope the "one person" sticks to his guns--er, resolve.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

...and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:

'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows?
But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.' I could say 'Elves' to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me~
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."


As the poet Robert Frost wrote, "Good fences make good neighbors."

Two points:

1. In the case described in the poem, Frost questioned the need for the fence since there was no great danger of the neighbors' intrusion on each other's land, (neither had cows) but both he and the neighbor were cooperatively participating in rebuilding the breaches in the wall anyway.

2. In our case there is an issue of intrusion onto our land, not by cows but by golf carts which have no right to be here.

I am continually astounded by the sense of entitlement to intrude on our paths by people who have absolutely no right to do so.


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[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

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The bridge is another factor. The bridge which was designed when a Golf Cart was a Golf Cart has now become dangerous. Its is not adequate for the traffic that now passes over it. There are too many of the carts now that are wider, heavier, and faster. Sooner or later there is going to be a fatality at the bridge. The slope is too steep and people travel too fast. Add in a few drinks and the potential for a disaster increases. If I were you guys I would be pushing for a new tunnel under 441/27. Far safer.

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That reasoning just seems to indicate that any extra traffic over the bridge is not a good idea; nor does it seem to be in the best interest to use it if one does not have to use it, Stonecrester or not!

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by DonH57

I'll clarify this. If my comment was interpreted as being sarcastic and that's what you read so be it. I just want to make that crystal clear.

Don, it looks like you and Gracie totally misunderstood my post.

I loved your post! It was obviously (to me) sarcasm. I have proposed in the past that this board should adopt a different font color for posts that are intended to be sarcasm, because there always seems to be someone who doesn't get it.

Or, was I wrong? Were you being serious when you proposed we let in everyone until our paths get so clogged that the joy of using them is gone? Did you seriously mean, "In fact let's remove the uniqueness of the villages all together." ?


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[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I'd like to know where they got a card. I thought once you reported a card as lost or damaged, it was deactivated. Even if they have a card, they're trespassing.

Some homes in the villages may have been issued their two gate passes but only need one - or - snowbirds might "loan" their passes out after they fly north.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by mickey100

If that is the case, why doesn't the Developer allow fences in between homes in The Villages? And I seem to remember a lot of people having their shorts in a bind about an invisible dog fence that only the owner could see. You can't have it both ways.

Perhaps the Developer doesn't read poetry.

And, he has shown many times that he can have "it" however he wants it.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Perhaps the Developer doesn't read poetry.

And, he has shown many times that he can have "it" however he wants it.

Mr. H. Gary Morse doesn't always get his way. He had to backtrack on the wall when the residents demonstrated in Spanish Springs. The rumble caused the Orlando press to drop what they were doing and rush to TV to report and publish their reports. Mr. Morse doesn't like bad publicity. Bad publicity causes sales to fall, and he hates when that happens.

The moral of the story is, if you want to get the developer's attention, just have a rumble in town square.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Perhaps the Developer doesn't read poetry.

And, he has shown many times that he can have "it" however he wants it.

Thank heavens HE is in charge.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Mr. H. Gary Morse doesn't always get his way. He had to backtrack on the wall when the residents demonstrated in Spanish Springs. The rumble caused the Orlando press to drop what they were doing and rush to TV to report and publish their reports. Mr. Morse doesn't like bad publicity. Bad publicity causes sales to fall, and he hates when that happens.

The moral of the story is, if you want to get the developer's attention, just have a rumble in town square.

And there are still no fences around the deed restricted residences.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Some homes in the villages may have been issued their two gate passes but only need one - or - snowbirds might "loan" their passes out after they fly north.

In which case those people are trespassing. Another reason to have cart IDs. Anyone filmed entering that gate without a TV ID on their cart is doing so illegally.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

That reasoning just seems to indicate that any extra traffic over the bridge is not a good idea; nor does it seem to be in the best interest to use it if one does not have to use it, Stonecrester or not!

I would be extremely cautious at that bridge. Its an accident waiting to happen.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Tell that to the people who are going over the "one person's" head and getting politicians and publicity involved.

I hope the "one person" sticks to his guns--er, resolve.

The current group is trying to get a crossing at the Hospital, not reopen the gate. The developer will have no direct say in the matter.

[mickey100]

I'm sure that will disappoint some of the Developer worshippers.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by CFrance

In which case those people are trespassing. Another reason to have cart IDs. Anyone filmed entering that gate without a TV ID on their cart is doing so illegally.

If that is true then everyone that goes to Aldi, Lowes, and Walmart on 441 from the villages are also trespassers. You are trespassing on private property. Sounds like a pretty Hypocritical argument to me.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

If that is true then everyone that goes to Aldi, Lowes, and Walmart on 441 from the villages are also trespassers. You are trespassing on private property. Sounds like a pretty Hypocritical argument to me.

Aldi, maybe, but not Lowes/Walmart. How is it trespassing if the property owners permit/facilitate it and do not implement the obstructions that are necessary before any use of the land can be declared trespass?

But anyone entering the gate without their personal access card would be a trespasser at that point.