[ScottS]

The test kits they are using don’t test for covid, they test for the flu. And 90% of those give a false positive. The Netherlands, Ireland and about 8 other countries are raising hell over the false pandemic. Stop the fear mongering!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So what and so what? Surface to human transmission is essentially zero, and unless you live in a 6 foot closet with no ventilation, normal breathing is highly unlikely to put enough viable virus into the air others breathe to infect them. But if you live in close contact with multiple family members I would wear a mask and isolate as much as possible also. It probably won't make a difference in terms of whether or not a family member gets COVID, but you would feel awful if someone in your home contracted it.

The CDC, some studies suggesting aerosol transmission, and common sense don't agree with you. But you do you and I'll do me and we'll be fine.

[Joe C.]

Whenever I get a message from TV Health, I just delete it. It's their "advice" or other fluff stuff. I make all my appointments and messages to my doctor through the "portal". I don't need to waste my time on things that for the most part don't concern me.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by ScottS

The test kits they are using don’t test for covid, they test for the flu. And 90% of those give a false positive. The Netherlands, Ireland and about 8 other countries are raising hell over the false pandemic. Stop the fear mongering!

This is ridiculous!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by ScottS

The test kits they are using don’t test for covid, they test for the flu. And 90% of those give a false positive. The Netherlands, Ireland and about 8 other countries are raising hell over the false pandemic. Stop the fear mongering!

Where did you get THAT idea???? Source please, I need a good laugh this morning

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The CDC, some studies suggesting aerosol transmission, and common sense don't agree with you. But you do you and I'll do me and we'll be fine.

"Common sense" often does not agree with scientific studies. Aerosol transmission is only at close distances and with a high inoculum. And I didn't see exactly what the "CDC" stated, or if it is an official announcement or one persons opinion

[KRM0614]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

At The Villages Health, we care for almost 60,000 patients. As of December 4, we know of 356 cases with 75 hospitalizations and eight deaths. There are likely cases among our patients we have not heard about. We likely heard about nearly all our patients who were hospitalized or died. Our employees are also not immune. As of December 7, we have tested 73 team members with 22 being positive and 51 negative. All 22 team members are back at work having completed the necessary quarantine period. Most health care workers, whether at hospitals, nursing homes or our care centers have their exposures outside of work.

TVH has been running rapid testing with support from the State of Florida using Abbott Labs Binax tests supplied by the federal government. To date, TVH is approaching 4,000 tests run and overall positive rate is over 7%. Peak day testing has been about 13%. Another 5,000 test kits were recently received so testing will continue. There is no cost for testing, and you do not have to be a TVH patient to be tested. Testing is being offered at our Brownwood and Creekside Care Centers by online appointment. The website is The Villages Health Rapid COVID-19 Screening - Registration with availability on first come, first served basis.

As Florida moved into Phase 3 in September, there have been more people out and about with a higher likelihood of exposure. While there is scattered evidence of “pandemic fatigue,” maintaining vigilance is important. As cases have surged in multiple places around the state, country and world, locally case increases have also occurred. In many parts of the country, the increased risk of COVID infection led to restrictions on elective procedures being re-enacted; yet locally, that directive has not been given.

Communities where large populations of seniors live, are advised to take proactive steps to reduce the risk of disease transmission. The Villages® Community is the nation’s largest 55 and older active living community.

Seniors who have serious medical conditions, such as heart or lung disease, diabetes, or conditions reflective of weakened immunity, are at even higher risk. These individuals can make decisions that reduce their risk of getting COVID-19. They should consider postponing participation in large scale social events, particularly those events held indoors with multiple close contacts. Everyone can help reduce the risk of community spread until the magnitude and severity of this infection is more widely known and understood.


As we move into Phase 3 of reopening, the best way to continue progressing back to normal is maintain practices that reduce the likelihood of spread.

Everyone can help by taking the following actions:

People should not attend in-person events if they are sick
Social distancing of at least six feet is important
Consistent mask wearing is advised
Frequent handwashing, avoid shaking hands and minimize hand-to-face contact
Cover your nose and mouth when sneezing and coughing, then wash your hands

Are you working for them? Do much false information and fear mongering

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by KRM0614

Are you working for them? Do much false information and fear mongering

The original post looked informative to me. Nothing in it looked unreasonable and nothing looked like fear mongering. Which specific details do you claim to be false?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by ScottS

The test kits they are using don’t test for covid, they test for the flu. And 90% of those give a false positive. The Netherlands, Ireland and about 8 other countries are raising hell over the false pandemic. Stop the fear mongering!

Who is they?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by gatorbill1

At The Villages Health, we care for almost 60,000 patients. As of December 4, we know of 356 cases with 75 hospitalizations and eight deaths. There are likely cases among our patients we have not heard about. We likely heard about nearly all our patients who were hospitalized or died. Our employees are also not immune. As of December 7, we have tested 73 team members with 22 being positive and 51 negative. All 22 team members are back at work having completed the necessary quarantine period. Most health care workers, whether at hospitals, nursing homes or our care centers have their exposures outside of work.

TVH has been running rapid testing with support from the State of Florida using Abbott Labs Binax tests supplied by the federal government. To date, TVH is approaching 4,000 tests run and overall positive rate is over 7%. Peak day testing has been about 13%. Another 5,000 test kits were recently received so testing will continue. There is no cost for testing, and you do not have to be a TVH patient to be tested. Testing is being offered at our Brownwood and Creekside Care Centers by online appointment. The website is The Villages Health Rapid COVID-19 Screening - Registration with availability on first come, first served basis.

As Florida moved into Phase 3 in September, there have been more people out and about with a higher likelihood of exposure. While there is scattered evidence of “pandemic fatigue,” maintaining vigilance is important. As cases have surged in multiple places around the state, country and world, locally case increases have also occurred. In many parts of the country, the increased risk of COVID infection led to restrictions on elective procedures being re-enacted; yet locally, that directive has not been given.

Communities where large populations of seniors live, are advised to take proactive steps to reduce the risk of disease transmission. The Villages® Community is the nation’s largest 55 and older active living community.

Seniors who have serious medical conditions, such as heart or lung disease, diabetes, or conditions reflective of weakened immunity, are at even higher risk. These individuals can make decisions that reduce their risk of getting COVID-19. They should consider postponing participation in large scale social events, particularly those events held indoors with multiple close contacts. Everyone can help reduce the risk of community spread until the magnitude and severity of this infection is more widely known and understood.


As we move into Phase 3 of reopening, the best way to continue progressing back to normal is maintain practices that reduce the likelihood of spread.

Everyone can help by taking the following actions:

People should not attend in-person events if they are sick
Social distancing of at least six feet is important
Consistent mask wearing is advised
Frequent handwashing, avoid shaking hands and minimize hand-to-face contact
Cover your nose and mouth when sneezing and coughing, then wash your hands

With respect to NOT shaking hands ( which is such obvious advice).......It should be noted that on the front page of the Villages Sun, there is a picture of 2 VFW older adults shaking hands (without gloves on). They have masks on, but one man has his nose uncovered and they are face-to-face at about a one-foot distance.

That front-page message strongly promotes BAD health and welfare advice to all of The Villages. It is typical of the newspaper's continual DOWNPLAYING of the CV disease spread that endangers ALL The Villages residents. A good newspaper editor would have caught that mistake and stopped it.

[Byte1]

I have heard and read many times that the COVID test is not conclusive and in many cases result in false POSITIVE readings. So, if you get a false positive and have no symptoms, they have you scared and quarantined.
Here is something I read recently, and I am interested in what the "experts" on here have to say about it. I am sure that some will say that it's not valid, but even if so I think it is something to consider. Believe or scoff, your choice.

"....people can be exposed to virus, and mount a simple innate immune response and never know any differently. When you test these people with very low viral loads, who are not sick, you can find the viral RNA code that is used to “diagnose” if you cycle enough times. ....... Labcorp cycles at least 40 times to detect viral genome fragments. The PCR test was never intended for diagnosis of infection but as a qualitative test for presence of parts of a virus genome. .. there has been some confusion circulating the net about what the inventor Kary Mullis had said about that. But we walk daily with people who have any number of parts of killer virus or bacterial genomes which one could pick up with a PCR test if one had the specific test for it."

"When it comes to COVID, the presence of viral particles picked up by the PCR technique does not and has not been quantitatively linked to an active “symptomatic” infection. It simply cannot be so, because infection threshold as a result of viral load is different for each patient. It turns out, if you “cycle” over around 25 times, the false positivity of COVID infection starts getting very high."


"..the PCR test is used to amplify small amount of genetic material so as to recognize patterns of DNA by “cycling.” (Also, for RNA virus, the RNA is converted to DNA in order to be detected, it’s just the way the test works)....It works because if you amplify and cycle enough times to “grow” legitimate DNA fragments, you get something with with a fair amount of specificity. What is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having a huge amount of false positives, period."

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by asianthree

No healthcare system will claim any employees have contracted virus in the facility. That would open up liability issues, plus comp cases

Since the beginning if you tested positive, you used all cto, pto, or vacation time, until you exhausted your bank.

After bank is gone you are then on a unpaid leave. Responsible for paying your own healthcare. While working that cost is around $300 to $500 per month. Unpaid leave your healthcare is $1200 to $2800 per month.

That is exactly why the countries with National Health Care have better Health outcomes like long life and better "quality of life" than in the US. Look up Australia of Switzerland and see the difference. The insurance companies OWN America and Americans meekly accept that "con job".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by xkeowner

Good summary post. I am curious since almost 1/3 of the employees tested were positive what is the data on their wearing of masks while away from the job? The infection rate seems high if they were following your recommended guidelines.

It would not be possible to get any meaningful statistics from that small of a group. Especially while asking a SUBJECTIVE question like, " how often do you wear your mask after work?" People would "blow-off" a question like that and just LIE.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by toeser

I hope people that are getting tested feel they have a reason to be tested beyond idle curiosity. We should not waste resources that may be needed by others. I have no plans to ever be tested unless I have strong reason to believe I have been exposed or have the virus.

if the DPA had been enacted in March, then we WOULD have plenty of tests for everyone. Other countries do NOT have that problem.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by xkeowner

Good summary post. I am curious since almost 1/3 of the employees tested were positive what is the data on their wearing of masks while away from the job? The infection rate seems high if they were following your recommended guidelines.

We have all visited our doctor there through Zoom or something like it. Virtual visits. We did enter to have blood drawn. You MUST wear a mask and they take your temperature at the door.

I cannot tell you how we three like Villages Health and LOVE, love, love Dr. Rizzi.