[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GOLFER54

Next time bring your own boom box with a CD player and blast AC/ DC, I’m sure he’ll get the idea.

All right I’m big fan of AC/DC.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by 024engine

Why should visitors have a say??

And probably didn't have ID?

[Funkman]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

All right I’m big fan of AC/DC.

For those about to rock...













please do it quietly, away from the pool

[Bilyclub]

The prior thread for reference: Rec pool etiquette

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Funkman

Thanks, I contacted the CDD, is the rec dept. a different entity? And if so, do you have any idea which would be the final authority on the subject?

Rec dept. can answer that question.

Village Community Development Districts

[cafw1]

I agree with all the people who said that the rules must be enforced. I was most amazed that a ''visitor'' had the audacity to be that rude to an owner who pays so "the visitor" can use the pool free of charge!! The other guy turned it down so he must have know the rules--but he could have avoided the problem in the first place by not bringing the music into the pool area. Some people ''just don't get it" and have to be told and penalized in a way that they can understand. It's your pool---enjoy it.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Funkman

But is it really anymore "obnoxious, arrogant, and just plain rude" than subjecting those within hearing distance of say, one's medical problems or other personal issues?

It's a double edged sword

Of course, there are those who bray on and on loud enough for everybody to hear, not just their friends. There are also those who blather away, at the top of their lungs, on their cells.

Those AirPods or earbuds work both ways, not only allowing your personal music choices to be kept to yourself but also to block out anything you don’t want to hear.

The fact that those situations exist does not give license to somebody to inflict their music on everybody else at a pool.

(By the way, you quoted me out of context, missed my analysis of the other character in this vignette of life in TV.)

And now for a little history lesson to underline my point about having nice manners:

Remember how the Army drove the dictator Noriega out of hiding? If you don’t know, look it up — psychological warfare — and if you keep looking, you will even find the playlist the military chose. But pleeeeeeese do not download it and take it to the pool.

Boomer

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by La lamy

So some of you may remember when I posted a question regarding the rules about someone playing their music aloud for all to hear in our rec pool settings, because I couldn't find an actual rule about it online. Well... Many said the rule is: NO PERSONAL MUSIC is to be played in public pools, other than what can sometimes be pumped out in the pools' own sound system. One response actually asked me if I only cowardly ask questions on TOTV or ever confront people. This wasn't even worth a reply since I clearly originally stated I didn't know what the protocols were. But today, equipped with the rules, I decided to ask the person at Southside pool in the historic district if he could turn down the volume on his system (playing X-Mas music). Here is what happened. He said sure, and turns it down, then guy in pool starts yelling "hey why are you turning the music down"? Guy explains about my request than guy in pool goes nuts, saying it's X-mas time and am I a visitor, and Pffffff about the rules. So yea, just like I figured, selfish A..holes will always want to have their way. I wish I had asked him "what would Jesus think right now" but knew better. No, there's no attendant at that pool to complain to, and no I can't build my own pool. But maybe from now on, it'll be suntanning in my driveway, if i can find a lounge chair!

I have several comments. 1st - that I find that many people in TV Land are hard of hearing. Not everyone, so we ALL have different sensitivity to loud noise. But, the overall trend is toward loudness. 2nd - type of music - hard rock, mellow rock, vocal jazz, instrumental, and classical to name a few - most people would probably be satisfied with a variety, but some would not be pleased. I, personally, would NOT like a steady diet of extremely hard rock or rap. And if I were reading while I was at the pool, it would be distracting to me because as I get older it is harder to concentrate and focus. 3rd - my most likely solution would be to bring my best noise-suppressing ear defenders with me and wear that - or a headset. While also moving as far away as possible from the music source. I would prefer no music to excessively loud music. 4th - people tend to form into cliques at the pools - the man in the pool probably had gotten used to the man playing his music loudly - so, he felt that he represented some group that was offended by your request to lower the volume. 5th - the man playing the music did the conscientious thing by lowering his volume. 6th - I feel that you did the right thing - you have paid your amenities fee and took the time to determine the rules. you are the one deserving to go there for sun, swimming, and socialization. So, please do NOT stop going there, do NOT allow the PUSHY types to dominate that or any other social activity in TV Land. Those types are everywhere in TV Land and elsewhere. They all need to be pushed back against because they can dominate and ruin many situations. I have observed many such situations get downgraded at clubs and sports activities. Many people at the pool will agree with you. They may be just staying silent and taking it. 7th and lastly (finally) - the last time I went to a pool was in March at the beginning of the US health problem. And I loved the pools. I loved to swim, read, socialize, and just people watch (such curious animals). It was often the high point of a particular day for me! Sadly, I felt compelled to avoid the pools for personal safety reasons. Good luck with your quest - it IS an important and noble one - not at all insignificant.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

As long as the never play Bing Crosby and 'White Christmas,' or Noddy Holder, with 'So here it is Merry Christmas,' I would suffer in silence!

I could do without, "mommy kissing Santa Claus" or "Grandma got run over by a reindeer"

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

The difference in how we, the people of The Villages, handle situations like this is largely geographic. The ones from the East Coast of the U.S. directly speak to the offender, who if he/she is from that part of the world is likely to speak back and likely to say something else that makes the situation no better, and possibly worse. The folks from the middle part of the country do not confront the offender. They either stop going, or move to another pool, because their mothers taught them to hush and not tell other people how to act.

Neither group is really right or wrong. Some people, I will say a lot of people are losing their hearing and come to the pools without their hearers so they aren't offended, the sound is a soft sound to them. Some people enjoy it. Some people have hyperacusis and loud sounds affect them and make them irritable.

I say. Merry Christmas. We have the vaccine that is 94% EFFECTIVE that will soon be available to all of us over 65. That means in essence the Pandemic will be over and we don't have to listen to people saying it is a conspiracy from the Chinese and that we are a bunch of paranoid stupid old people who probably are gonna die soon anyway.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. I hope you have something yummy to eat today and someone to share it with. xoxoxo

As regards the vaccine - I notice that some non-healthcare people were the 1st to get it here locally.

[DavidK]

There have been some great suggestions, and a few funny tongue in cheek remarks, regarding the villager playing music for all to hear while at the neighborhood pool. It all comes down to consideration. We all come from different parts of the world and have different habits, levels of tolerance, and expectations. So, before you do what you always have done, think if it is considerate. Here are some things we have experienced since being here just five months. As Jerry Seinfeld says, "there are loud talkers" and "cell yellers". Whether you are in your screened lanai or garage, at the grocery, or at the pool, you can be considerate. In traffic when someone turns at the last minute or a golf cart is heading down a street just for autos, perhaps the cart driver is a new resident and has not yet figured out what kind of vehicle is allowed on the roads and what kind is not. The same goes for the round-a-bouts. Being a new resident can be very confusing and embarrassing. How about your neighbor's beloved dog that yaps incessantly whenever you go outside or there is a delivery to a home nearby. It is annoying and the pet should be put in the house or trained not to bark, especially when the owner says, "hush!". Unfortunately, the owners are used to the sound and since they love their pet, they are so much more tolerant than others. We dined on Christmas Eve at the Belle Glade Country Club. It is a pretty and fairly formal dining spot. While there, we observed a woman bring a large poodle into the restaurant. From the looks of the animal, it may have been a "companion". However, the woman was with a pretty good-sized group, likely family or friends. Could she not have left the dog at home for an hour or two? Instead, all the patrons and servers had to accommodate this woman and her dog. It laid nicely on the floor, leashed to her chair and enjoying a bowl of water. If the restaurant allows her to have her dog, then a person with a noisy shedding smelly dog can't be excluded. Right?
Learn to listen better, have more patience, and try to make your retirement years pleasant. If you confront someone, be honest and polite, not belligerent and angry. Be considerate and when others interact with they will learn and appreciate your patience.

[Funkman]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Of course, there are those who bray on and on loud enough for everybody to hear, not just their friends. There are also those who blather away, at the top of their lungs, on their cells.

Those AirPods or earbuds work both ways, not only allowing your personal music choices to be kept to yourself but also to block out anything you don’t want to hear.

The fact that those situations exist does not give license to somebody to inflict their music on everybody else at a pool.

(By the way, you quoted me out of context, missed my analysis of the other character in this vignette of life in TV.)

And now for a little history lesson to underline my point about having nice manners:

Remember how the Army drove the dictator Noriega out of hiding? If you don’t know, look it up — psychological warfare — and if you keep looking, you will even find the playlist the military chose. But pleeeeeeese do not download it and take it to the pool.

Boomer

Shouldn't the 'rules' be applied to everyone equally?

Why don't those who have a problem with the music simply wear earplugs if they don't like the way others choose to relax?

Why should those blathering on be allowed to inflict their business on others?

Again, there are two sides to this, demonizing one side while excusing the other, isn't fair and won't help solve anything.

If I'm sitting by myself, listening to music at voice level, and someone sits down next to me and complains, am I required to turn it down/off? If so, do I have the right to ask that person not to speak at that same volume?

Why exactly is one acceptable while the other one isn't?

I agree that it's all about having manners and respecting others but there are those that think the world revolves around them and what they want and we all know those people are going to do whatever they want regardless of the feelings of others.

Which is why I'd really like to see what the actual rules are rather than simply going on what some people wish the rules were.

(FTR, I didn't mean to quote you out of context, I was just quoting the part I was responding to)

[Luisa]

Don’t want to hear Christmas music. You sound like Scrooges. The music didn’t need to be loud. I would have been very unhappy if it was so low I could barely hear it. I don’t think it is nice to ruin other people’s joy. If you want to read a book, fine. However, everyone else shouldn’t have to suffer in silence. I’m appreciative if someone brings music and joy to the pool. If I want silence, I’ll stay home.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DIver0258

Hmmm would a little Five Finger Death Punch be the answer here? I am probably one of the few here that like their music. We are fortunate enough to have our own pool. I still listen with head phones as I’m sure my neighbors aren’t fans. Merry Christmas, take the road less traveled, iron sharpens iron, don’t dwell on the negative, I just move on, mama always said you reap what you sow. Mr. Or Miss J Q A$$h0lis will receive payment in kind down the road 10 fold!

"iron sharpens iron" - that IS serious philosophy - how about, " rock gives iron a sharper edge".

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by Cheapbas

If anyone wants to listen to music at a public place, earbuds or headphones would be the courteous way to go.

Of course you could blare your favorite band, Tool, next time to get your point across. There’s probably only 2 of us in TV that actually like them, it’s sure to succeed.

I love Tool. I hope Maynard has recovered from Covid by now. You're absolutely right - we should blast Tool or Nine Inch Nails or Jane's Addiction for equal time. And do it at the poster's pool. That might send a signal.