Well if I may include my 2 cents which no one has asked for; I feel anything posted in the General Villages Discussion should include the word villages. If gfmucci is looking for a part time job in TV or information thereof, it should be posted in General Villages Discussion as it pertains to the villages. Maybe someone reading the post might have knowledge of part time availability in TV. He is not inquiring about Ocala. Regarding VK and the Polo match information with pix is something that happened in the villages and was about the villages. Again, it wasn't a sporting event at Del Webb. Non-Villages Discussion should be exactly that. Anything that pertains to subjects which do not include or mention TV per se. It is more for personal subjects and bantering. If popular enough the Administrators will create a special folder for us. Some may say it's to chatty, but paleeeeze get a life. We are not all in TV, we mostly are sprinkled around the USA. A little lighthearted laughter and camaraderie is not going to kill a thread. Secondly, I do think this is one albatross of a job for Jan, Tony & Darrel overseeing this forum. There are as you know thousands of posts, these guys have to be alert everyday for our protection. Finally, when I sign on I look on every folder in every category so I don't miss something. It takes little or no effort to poke around and get involved. It is just nice to have TOTV with its flaws and enjoy numerous hours of entertainment, enjoyment and information for all, even if flaws exist. Thank you, JohnnyM

[gfmucci]

My primary point is this -

If there is some unwritten rule that causes administrators to feel the need to move what is obviously a Villages thread to a non-Villages section, please let us know what that rule is.

[redwitch]

Jan, an easy solution to not working this board 24/7 is to get moderators for each forum (a truly busy forum might have 3 or 4 moderators so the work is spread around). They "police" the forums -- pming people when they cross a line, moving posts as appropriate, making sure newbies are greeted, locking a thread if a subject has been beaten to death, etc. If they have a question, they talk to each other through a private forum for moderators only. Saves a lot of grief and passes around some of the work.

Administrators have the final say-so on anything that happens, post as they feel appropriate but basically let the moderators handle the day-to-day operations. Saves a lot of grief. I have a parenting board with over 5,000 members, 13,000 threads and 144,000 posts. Barring when I do a post or a server crashes, I spend about 15-30 minutes a day on the board. The moderators do the rest. Makes life a lot easier. My bridge group takes a lot more work because it is a Yahoo Group and the people are so dang touchy that more than one cook definitely spoils their broth.

Just a suggestion.

[barb1191]

Suggestion:

If the Member is looking for his/her posts and can't find it/them, scroll to the top of the page next to your "Welcome Back....." click on User CP which takes you to your profile page.

At the bottom of this page there's a link Show the last posts of this person. and click on that and it will take you to ALL of your posts you have written. Then, you can click on the subject one of interest to see other posts pertaining to that subject, as well.

Hope I haven't confused the issue. That's how I find my posts, no matter where they may be.

barb1191

PS: How about a separate forum strictly for "Frequently asked Questions (FAQ) and answers? This may shed some light on various issues in administration of the site.

[barb1191]

Originally Posted by redwitch

My bridge group takes a lot more work because it is a Yahoo Group and the people are so dang touchy that more than one cook definitely spoils their broth.

Just a suggestion.

Interesting you say that about Yahoo Group RW. I own/moderate a large Yahoo group and find it to be very user-friendly and little time-consuming.

The Villages Computer Club also uses Yahoo Groups and if they choose it, guess they are as pleased as I am with the user-friendly software. .....barb1191

Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth......AMEN. I know I should stick to my own advice, but.... I don't think I recall any of the Administrators asking for our advice or assistance. This forum has been ongoing for quite a number of years unabashed. In all due respect, I think forum members have every right to question the mechanics of the forum but no right to demand how rules were established and or carried out. I have not contributed one penny to this forum therefore I don't think I have the right to ask or demand anything from its originators. If a thread is moved, so be it; a thread was moved. It wasn't deleted just moved. Maybe a few posters have a point and feel their respective thread's should not have been moved and I am sure the Administrators are discussing their grievances and may act accordingly in the future. No reason to call anyone on the carpet. We have the ability to PM any one of the Administrators with what we might perceive as being a problem, potential problem or a personal aside.

[chelsea24]

:yikes: WHAT POST AM I ON??? OMG! AM I IN THE WRONG FORUM????? ??? SHOULD I SAY THE WORD VILLAGES!I GIVE UP! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Sorry peeps, couldn't resist it! Just kidding. :joke:

[chelsea24]

Just a quick follow-up and round of applause to the administrators. That is a thankless job and I know how hard it is to oversee a website. Thanks for putting up with all of us. Especially me! :-*

[Muncle]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

Do we have any volunteers to help with the "posting police" duties. Be mindful that it is a 24/7 job. I did it every day last year while I was on vacation in Europe.

TH ----
If you will send me on vacation to Europe (though someone says they might spit on me there), I'll be glad to volunteer. And is that 24/7 eastern daylight time or pacific time?

[tony]

Decisions about where posts belong are entirely judgement. Nobody can write rules that could be applied consistently to an operation like this.

Posts belong where Jan, Darrel and I deem proper. We are trying to craft a place that is easy to navigate so that you don't have to wade through dozens and dozens of posts that you consider drivel. Others, by the way, don't consider them drivel at all. We have to decide where they fit.

At the top of the screen is a selectionto jump directly to new replies to your posts. You are free to use that.

Sidney Lanier has one of the clearest views of this. Residents interacting with TV management, official services and such, nuts and bolts stuff, that's what he sees as fitting into General.

JohnnyM also has a very clear view. Read his two posts here and you can detect a change in his viewpoint from one to the next, and each just as firm as reasonable as the other. That's the way decisions on these go. And the view changes of where threads belong. A thread that starts out at as a simple question suddenly turns quite commercial. Its moved. Its judgement.

Inconsistencies? Maybe in your mind. Willy nilly. Get serious. We're doing our best to make sense of all this and make it comfortable to use. That includes reading for content, gentility, and obvious untruths. We can't catch them all, but we have caught some, and we have banned people for egregious postings.

As for leaving the "breadcrumb post" behind telling of a moved post. Jan, Darrel and I have talked about it and feel it is detrimental to the flow of a forum. Some forums do it, and some don't.

What rules can we possibly write? There will always, always be threads that fit between the topics. We have to make judgements every day.

[graciegirl]

We seniors sure know how to pick a little talk a little.

We seniors have wisdom.

We seniors seem to be graduates of various and sundry debate clubs.

We seniors are funny, bright, articulate, wordy and grouchy at times.

We Seniors sure know how to argue.

Hmmmm.

I can see both sides. I wouldn't want the job of deciding which goes where. I am grateful someone else does.

A closed mouth gathers no feet. Say Goodnight Gracie.

A hugh- Thank You -to the adminstrators of TOTV !!!
If I was you, I would resign and let the biggest complainers run this forum for awhile. I know they would never put in the work and time you do...I also know people would start complaining about their decisions and you could sit back and laugh!
There are doers and there are talkers. Talk is easy. So once again--Thank you--for all your time and efforts. It is an excellent forum.

[samhass]

:beer2: I enjoy this site so much and deeply appreciate all your efforts.

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Just a quick follow-up and round of applause to the administrators. That is a thankless job and I know how hard it is to oversee a website. Thanks for putting up with all of us. Especially me! :-*

[gfmucci]

If trying to make something better, more functional, and more accurately depict where things are located is called "complaining", no enterprise would make any progress.

Here are the directions for the users of this forum...

General Villages Discussion (Click Here)
Feel free to talk about anything relating to life in the Villages.

and

Non Villages Discussion
All topics not related to Villages life

These seem clear, but there are obviously some other background rules that we are not being told.

I would provide additional unsolicited suggestions, but I am not a mind reader.* It is not clear what other criteria admin. has in mind that causes them to relocate posts from "life in the Villages" forum when the posts clearly conform with the written heading instruction for that forum.

It certainly takes more administrator time and effort to move stuff around than to leave it where it originated.* I appreciate all the hard work of the admin..* But I don't understand why they make more work for themselves by moving things around unless there is some good reason for doing so that is not expressed in the forum headings.* Several topics I and others posted in the past several months that were clearly related to "life in the Villages" as the instuctions call for were moved.* Why can't admin. just stick with the simple guidelines they established? :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow: It sure would involve less work.* I can't get too excited about folks who make more work for themselves than necessary - especially when that extra work goes contrary to their own guidelines.*

Granted.* This is not a big deal.* Just a user observation and suggestion to have the instructions more closely match policy (or vice versa) than is currently the case.

Uncle - I will just consider the current situation as one of lifes' mysteries since there remains no useful explanation.

Yes, I love this forum* :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:* Just offering a way for this forum to be more predictable and better.

[captain1202]

I recently posted a poll about lawn maintenance people in the general forum. After a day or so it disappeared and I later found it in "contractors & services". Frankly, I never thought to look there because there was another thread discussing grass (that also disappeared somewhere). I thought all of this was a General Discussion, I certainly wasn't promoting any particular service, just looking for info.

I love the forum but I haven't got the time to "flit" from category to category. I get on, check the general discussion and either comment or sign off.

I agree with earlier posts about too many "categories". I don't consider my post about lawn companies any more egregious that then admin's post about Florida Pool.

What I would like to see are fewer "me toos" and personal posts. The idea here is to provide meaningful input not chat with inside comments to one another which would be more appropriately handled through a PM. No offense intended to anyone here.

Perhaps good subcategory would "Personal Chat".

Admins are doing a great job, but by and large I haven't seen many "offending" posts in "general", and I check a couple of times a day.

Keep in mind much of the value of the blog is for newbies who are looking for info and probably aren't going to be scouting each and thread to get their questions answered.

Let's keep it simple guys!