[4557Spahr]

Many carts at 4 way stops seem to think it’s OK to roll out behind the cart in front of them. They need 4 way stop instructions. it’s dangerous. If they are driving on a roadway, the same rules apply as a car. Blinking to merge is also a good concept. Our gate has a Village to the right. You never know where they are headed.

[sswitenki]

Now add the bike riders who I rarely ever see stop at ANY stop sign. Seems they think the road rules don’t apply to them at all. Everyone needs to be on their toes at all time knowing that is the norm.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages

I was taught that when making a left turn, you yield to everyone.

So in your example, the straight-ahead traffic proceeds, and when it is clear the other driver can make their left turn.

Yes, for one car going straight. Not for the whole group behind him going straight also. And I see everyone hates the polite wave on. Well, when I have someone who looks like they cant make a decision as to stay or go, I will wave them on. Someone obviously has to make a decision for them

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Yes, for one car going straight. Not for the whole group behind him going straight also. And I see everyone hates the polite wave on. Well, when I have someone who looks like they cant make a decision as to stay or go, I will wave them on. Someone obviously has to make a decision for them

They stop at the roundabout to wave you on but not realizing there are cars behind them thus stopping the traffic flow. Irritating.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Yes, for one car going straight. Not for the whole group behind him going straight also. And I see everyone hates the polite wave on. Well, when I have someone who looks like they cant make a decision as to stay or go, I will wave them on. Someone obviously has to make a decision for them

Of course it's not all the cars behind them. Each vehicle has to stop at the stop sign and a new right of way is established.

[oemsp1]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

It seems to me that many of our residents don't understand or have forgotten the right of way rules when it comes to intersections.

Many times I have gotten to the stop sign after another car only to be waved on. Or in some instances, I have gotten to the stop sign at the same time as a car on my right and again get waved on. I think that people are doing this because they think that they are being polite, but it is actually dangerous.

When two cars approach an intersection, the one that gets their first has the right of way. If they both arrive at the same time, the one on the right should go first.




If everyone follows these simple rules driving would be much safer and less frustrating.

Now, I do have a question that possibly someone here can answer.

If two cars are approaching and intersection in opposite directions both arriving at the same time and one of them is going to make a left hand turn, which has the right of way? I'm guessing that the one going straight ahead does because when the car making the left hand turn turns, the other car is on the right.

And thanks to the old goat in the brown Kia Sorento who cut me off in the outside lane yesterday on Morse. May want to undo your rectal/cranial inversion and learn to drive sometime!

[Alaska Butch]

Roundabouts are even worse. Traffic approaching and in roundabouts should rarely stop if executed properly. Merge is the operative word. Look up a tutorial.

[b0bd0herty]

Originally Posted by TStVillages

Sumter Sheriff gives golf car right of way over vehicles and will ticket vehicle in case of accident.

Possibly you've seen this but, no. A street legal golf cart has to follow the same rules as a full size auto/truck. IF, the vehicle decided to ignore the golf cart that stole right of way and intentionally causes an accident; that's different.

[paulajr]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

You would be spot on with your intersection question. I also prefer that folks do not stop when on a street to let someone out of a side street...once again they are likely to think they are being considerate, but in reality they disrupt the unintended flow of traffic.

Where the cart lane is part of a roadway(like Pinellas Way)and that cart lane ends there's usually a sign that says "carts merge with vehicular traffic". For those who don't know this does not mean that those in carts have the right-of-way over the cars. So please stop pulling out in front of cars assuming they will stop/slow down for you. I have waaay to many close calls in these situations...guess who loses when cart driver doesn't yield?

Actually..if the cart is in Front of you he DOES have the right to pull in front. Stop trying to cut them off!!!

[b0bd0herty]

Originally Posted by camaguey48

They stop at the roundabout to wave you on but not realizing there are cars behind them thus stopping the traffic flow. Irritating.

AND causing huge backups and quite likely, multiple accidents. Approaching a round-about a while back (very little traffic) a street legal cart with 4 people stopped and waved me through. I stopped, rolled down my window and yelled: "You never stop in the roundabout cause you have the right of way. It will cause an accident and people will be hurt." As he drove off, three of the four gave me a thumbs up. Obviously, this was the driver's first time.

[collie1228]

If the driver straight ahead arriving at the four-way stop sign neglects to use his directional signal to turn left in front of you, does that mean that he has the right of way? Since few drivers use their signals, there must be some good reason.

[nhtexasrn]

I have said this so many times....if people would just follow regular driving rules and not stop and wave someone on, trying to be polite, things would go so much more smoothly. It's a nice gesture but dangerous. People forget that with tinted windows sometimes a person can't see them waving and have no clue what they are about to do. This can lead to confusion and accidents.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by sswitenki

Now add the bike riders who I rarely ever see stop at ANY stop sign. Seems they think the road rules don’t apply to them at all. Everyone needs to be on their toes at all time knowing that is the norm.

There are circumstances that I won't stop at a stop sign. But I will still look in all directions for traffic, and let the traffic pattern decide whether I stop, slow down, go through at my current pace, or try to speed up (and yes I know it's illegal, I'm just telling you WHY I do it, because I'm guessing most bike riders have similar reasons):

If I'm going uphill, and that stop sign is on the hill, it means I might need to walk my bike from that stop until I get to the crest of the hill. If it's a steep hill, that's pretty much guaranteed. Moving forward from a complete stop to go UPhill is not easy to do on a bicycle. I'm willing to do that, and I will absolutely do that if there is traffic at that intersection.

But if I approach the intersection and see clearly there's no traffic, and it's a 4-way stop, or if I see someone JUUUUST coming up toward the stop sign when I am too, I will plow through that stop sign and try to maintain my speed so I don't have to end up walking the thing.

And remember - if I do end up walking it, I have the right of way no matter who's there first.

My goal is to try and prevent a traffic jam. If I can slip through that intersection without ANYONE having to stop for me, I'll do it. Otherwise, I'll stop, and wait for EVERYONE else to go first. I'll wave them on. Because it takes me too long to move forward from that complete stop, and I don't want to hold THEM up.

I know it's against the law. But it also is a logical, practical thing to do, under those particular circumstances.

Going downhill, or on flat ground, of course I'll come to a complete stop on my bicycle. There's no reason not to. I can speed up almost as fast as the average golf cart to cross the intersection so I won't be inconveniencing anyone else.

[raygille]

I believe you are correct. The one going straight does, however, many do not use turn signals so good luck in that situation.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by TStVillages

Sumter Sheriff gives golf car right of way over vehicles and will ticket vehicle in case of accident.

So, made up own special law that trumps Florida law?