[BrianL99]

I never paid much attention to roofing in TV, but I'm watching Skylight Roofing do a roofing job, right now.

6 guys on a roof, with no "Fall Protection". I've yet to hear a word of English being spoken, but that's only anecdotal and incidental.

How do these roofers get away with ignoring OSHA standards? 29 CFR 1926.501 mandates "fall protection" if you're on a roof, above 6' The only way to get around it, would be to have a site specific safety plan, that proves it's "safer not to provide fall protection" (a fairly difficult argument to make.

I can't believe their Worker's Comp Insurance Co. doesn't mandate proper safety protocols.

Happens to be a trigger point with me, as we're currently involved in a situation, where a worker fell from a roof. Worker's Comp has already paid out $272,000 and a 27 year old man, will never work again. Lucky for us, we had insurance, fall protection was in place and the worker was wearing a safety harness. Unlucky for him, the harness failed.

[CarlR33]

Brian, sorry to hear this and not uncommon in the residential roofing industry across the country. I would suggest you contact the (edited) Tampa OSHA office if you want to. I do occupational safety for a living so it does pain me to see individuals and companies act in this manner. I was told by the OSHA Midwest office this is not a high priority compliance issue for them so good luck maybe the (edited) Tampa office feels differently.
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[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

Brian, sorry to hear this and not uncommon in the residential roofing industry across the country. I would suggest you contact the Orlando OSHA office if you want to. I do occupational safety for a living so it does pain me to see individuals and companies act in this manner. I was told by the OSHA Midwest office this is not a high priority compliance issue for them so good luck maybe the Orlando office feels differently.
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Apparently Tampa is the OSHA office for Sumter County.

I'm sure it's not a high priority, but I happen to think business owners' have the obligation and duty to protect their workers, to the best of their ability. Everyone in the construction industry knows accidents can happen, but to knowingly put workers at risk, is unconscionable in my opinion. With what they're charging to replace a roof in TV these days, they should be able to do it right and do it safely.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I never paid much attention to roofing in TV, but I'm watching Skylight Roofing do a roofing job, right now.

6 guys on a roof, with no "Fall Protection". I've yet to hear a word of English being spoken, but that's only anecdotal and incidental.

So first sentence the name of the company.

Next you point out language concerns of not hearing “English”

Finally Followed by OSHA concerns.

Would it be appropriate to call the office of the company, to voice your concerns, since you have first hand experience of injury due to faulty harness equipment?

Then again I have the same worries about English not spoken, when I enter a room. Our kids fluently speaking, French, Hispanic, Cantonese, or German.

Pretty sure they don’t want I’ve fixed for lunch, and don’t want to hurt my feelings. They do come in handy at ethnic restaurants and traveling in Europe and Montreal.

[vintageogauge]

Take a look at the roofs being put on new builds, same thing there.

[Stu from NYC]

They should have some protection.

Years ago folks building skyscrapers no protection anywhere so we have made progress.

[gorillarick]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I never paid much attention to roofing in TV, but I'm watching Skylight Roofing do a roofing job, right now.

6 guys on a roof, with no "Fall Protection". I've yet to hear a word of English being spoken, but that's only anecdotal and incidental.

How do these roofers get away with ignoring OSHA standards? 29 CFR 1926.501 mandates "fall protection" if you're on a roof, above 6' The only way to get around it, would be to have a site specific safety plan, that proves it's "safer not to provide fall protection" (a fairly difficult argument to make.

I can't believe their Worker's Comp Insurance Co. doesn't mandate proper safety protocols.

Happens to be a trigger point with me, as we're currently involved in a situation, where a worker fell from a roof. Worker's Comp has already paid out $272,000 and a 27 year old man, will never work again. Lucky for us, we had insurance, fall protection was in place and the worker was wearing a safety harness. Unlucky for him, the harness failed.

Yeah, I spent my career in industry - weekly safety meetings, lectures, classes. I can't believe absolutely no one wears eye protection here. Workers, both private (miniscule) companies, and TV contractors/employees using blowers, power tools, etc. etc.
And hearing protection? Unheard of.

ps: great quote from one of the wisest, one of the very few wise.

[retiredguy123]

OSHA doesn't really enforce their safety rules anymore. They have been underfunded for many years. Safety rules with no funding to enforce them are pretty much worthless.

When I worked in construction for the Army Corps of Engineers, we had a safety manual, and any employee could shut down a project immediately for a violation. That really got some quick action from the contractor.

[mraines]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

Yeah, I spent my career in industry - weekly safety meetings, lectures, classes. I can't believe absolutely no one wears eye protection here. Workers, both private (miniscule) companies, and TV contractors/employees using blowers, power tools, etc. etc.
And hearing protection? Unheard of.

ps: great quote from one of the wisest, one of the very few wise.

I have macular degeneration and virtually one eye. I ride a bike around here and wear protective glasses. I agree, the landscapers don't wear any protection. One rock can become a missile and a lost eye.

[SkylightRoofing]

I won’t go into a long rebuttal regarding our 80K homes we replaced as W-2, Workman Comp, OSHA-10 compliance, Etc. What I will tell you is that anything under 6/12 is not guidelines as a harness-in, anything above is mandatory and we have 50k photos to share with you over just the last 8 years if you need evidence as a Villager and a person who actually has to create a post.

I do understand the nature of your query as you have been bitten or a friend. Here in The Villages, all liability lands on us as we are 22 million liability just on entry to driveway…So yes, fully liable. We have been here for two decades, so feel free to contact us to discuss maybe before you point a finger on regulations (FL 2025) that we follow very closely.

Thank you neighbor.

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I never paid much attention to roofing in TV, but I'm watching Skylight Roofing do a roofing job, right now.

6 guys on a roof, with no "Fall Protection". I've yet to hear a word of English being spoken, but that's only anecdotal and incidental.

How do these roofers get away with ignoring OSHA standards? 29 CFR 1926.501 mandates "fall protection" if you're on a roof, above 6' The only way to get around it, would be to have a site specific safety plan, that proves it's "safer not to provide fall protection" (a fairly difficult argument to make.

I can't believe their Worker's Comp Insurance Co. doesn't mandate proper safety protocols.

Happens to be a trigger point with me, as we're currently involved in a situation, where a worker fell from a roof. Worker's Comp has already paid out $272,000 and a 27 year old man, will never work again. Lucky for us, we had insurance, fall protection was in place and the worker was wearing a safety harness. Unlucky for him, the harness failed.

[mrf6969]

Make the call Brian. Brent is a great guy and great professional in his field.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by SkylightRoofing

I won’t go into a long rebuttal regarding our 80K homes we replaced as W-2, Workman Comp, OSHA-10 compliance, Etc. What I will tell you is that anything under 6/12 is not guidelines as a harness-in, anything above is mandatory and we have 50k photos to share with you over just the last 8 years if you need evidence as a Villager and a person who actually has to create a post.

I do understand the nature of your query as you have been bitten or a friend. Here in The Villages, all liability lands on us as we are 22 million liability just on entry to driveway…So yes, fully liable. We have been here for two decades, so feel free to contact us to discuss maybe before you point a finger on regulations (FL 2025) that we follow very closely.

Thank you neighbor.

Hi. What is 6/12?

[ton80]

6/12 is the roof pitch. 6 inches is the roof rise over the span of 12 inches. The Villages roofs are more like a rise of 3 or 4 inches over the span of 12 inches. If the rule is safety harness if 6/12 or higher, the roof was not subject to mandatory safety harness.

My last house in NC was 3 stories and 12/12 roof so when the the roof was replaced all workers wore safety harnesses

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by SkylightRoofing

I won’t go into a long rebuttal regarding our 80K homes we replaced as W-2, Workman Comp, OSHA-10 compliance, Etc. What I will tell you is that anything under 6/12 is not guidelines as a harness-in, anything above is mandatory and we have 50k photos to share with you over just the last 8 years if you need evidence as a Villager and a person who actually has to create a post.

I do understand the nature of your query as you have been bitten or a friend. Here in The Villages, all liability lands on us as we are 22 million liability just on entry to driveway…So yes, fully liable. We have been here for two decades, so feel free to contact us to discuss maybe before you point a finger on regulations (FL 2025) that we follow very closely.

Thank you neighbor.

The nature of my query, is why roofing companies (& other contractors) in The Villages, believe they're not subject to the same federal safety standards, as I and other large commercial contractors are.

I'd be happy to post photos and video of your crew doing a roofing job, without fall protection.

Feel free to check the OSHA Regulations which are Federal and apply to Florida:
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[Bogie Shooter]

My opinion. Before posting an accusation about any business you should call/visit the business for an explanation of your concern.