[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Crash does not happen. A driver is supposed to recognize the other vehicle needs to cross over his path. You leave a gap and slow down to allow them to do it. Yield! That is the rule of a RAB.

This is not rocket science! At any intersection cars pass over the paths of other cars.

When you are at a red light, do you see those who have a green light CROSSING your path?

When you are a stop sign, do you see a vehicle CROSS OVER YOUR PATH?

That is what an intersection is!!! Vehicles CROSSING PATHS.

In a RAB, there are no stop signs or red lights. You are supposed to allow others to CROSS YOUR PATH.

Don't you feel like you are banging your head against a wall?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Thanks again, But waiting a few seconds for a gap and yielding are the rules of a RAB. I have been to other countries as well and had no problems. The RAB in the Villages are NOT the same as in other countries. They are MUCH SMALLER and are designed to be driven slowly.

The only time you yield or stop is before entering to traffic from left, not in the roundabout.
In the roundabout it should be a continuous flow, and no one should have to stop, yield, or give way at all except in an emergency.
As for roundabouts in TV being smaller than anywhere else, thousands of them in UK and Europe are way smaller.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a "RAB within a RAB" that someone mentioned up-thread. This, of course, is not something we would see here in the US. I believe it was in a foreign country that this crazy RAB is located.

Watch video in link. Interesting
I lived near some years ago, and used it regularly on way to work.
It's actually a brilliant system, and works well.
There are two in UK using that system.
Maybe TV is not ready for it yet!
You may spot that the mini roundabouts are just a painted circles, no raised centers.
There are many roundabouts with just that painted circle at junctions all over UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVF1rnUKHw

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The only time you yield or stop is before entering to traffic from left, not in the roundabout.
In the roundabout it should be a continuous flow, and no one should have to stop, yield, or give way at all except in an emergency.
As for roundabouts in TV being smaller than anywhere else, thousands of them in UK and Europe are way smaller.

You 100 % yield when you are in a RAB. Whether it is slowing down, leaving a gap, or stopping before entering. Please post any literature or video that states you DO NOT YIELD in a roundabout. Please post any literature or video that states a roundabout is continuous flow and not a replacement for a standard traffic light.

I have been to Europe and never saw a RAB smaller than the Villages. Some on the side streets were the same size.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

As for roundabouts in TV being smaller than anywhere else, thousands of them in UK and Europe are way smaller.

Originally Posted by Randall55

I have been to Europe and never saw a RAB smaller than the Villages. Some on the side streets were the same size.

Let’s see if I read this right.

A non resident visitor to Europe appears to call a resident a liar.

Or in kinder terms telling him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Randall55

You 100 % yield when you are in a RAB.

I give up!

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Let’s see if I read this right.

A non resident visitor to Europe appears to call a resident a liar.

Or in kinder terms telling him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

I am scheduled to go to England a few weeks before Christmas. I wasn't calling anyone a liar. From my perspective, the size seems to be the same.

After reading this, I spoke to my friend in England who has visited me in the Villages several times. He agrees the roundabouts are close in size. If he had told me the opposite, I would have admitted my error in judgement.

This time, I will take a measuring tape if it makes you happy.

It is obvious the many larger ones are MUCH LARGER. But, I will measure those, as well.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I give up!

A roundabout is an intersection. An intersection is where cars must cross over the paths of other vehicles. You allow the cars to cross over your path. That is the definition of yielding. Again, not rocket science.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I am scheduled to go to England a few weeks before Christmas. I wasn't calling anyone a liar. From my perspective, the size seems to be the same.

After reading this, I spoke to my friend in England who has visited me in the Villages several times. He agrees the roundabouts are close in size. If he had told me the opposite, I would have admitted my error in judgement.

This time, I will take a measuring tape if it makes you happy.

It is obvious the many larger ones are MUCH LARGER. But, I will measure those, as well. I will not include the minis because they are just markers on the road. Not the same species we have here in the Villages.

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[wisbad1]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Did you enter the right lane as a vehicle was approaching in the left lane, did a vehicle enter the left lane next to you and at the same time, or did the vehicle already in the left lane race up and overtake you before you passed the first exit? The first one is definitely your fault, the second is definitely his fault, and the third is unlikely.

If you drive a crappy car, everyone will watch out for you!

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by wisbad1

If you drive a crappy car, everyone will watch out for you!

Ok, that just made me laugh. You got the solution!

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I have not seen anyone driving clockwise in the roundabouts. Thanks to you, I will expect it!

Is it really that much shorter than doing it correctly? I really don't see the point.

I have. But they were in a golf cart so it doesn't count.
Honest. At the roundabout by SeaBreeze. I thought for sure I was going to see a fatality, however, all of the automobile traffic stopped, and the driver of the cart got out of that situation alive and unharmed.
Not sure if she made it home or not.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Watch video in link. Interesting
I lived near some years ago, and used it regularly on way to work.
It's actually a brilliant system, and works well.
There are two in UK using that system.
Maybe TV is not ready for it yet!
You may spot that the mini roundabouts are just a painted circles, no raised centers.
There are many roundabouts with just that painted circle at junctions all over UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVF1rnUKHw

YIKES! This seems to work really well if you are used to it. I know I would not want to encounter this type of RAB.

This is one of the comments on YouTube regarding this "Magic Roundabout".........

@malcolmabram2957I
2 years ago (edited)
"I encountered this once, just the once in the 80s. Did not understand the weird sign, had to do a 'third exit,' so none the wiser, drove on and went round the inside lane to meet an oncoming car. Both of us stopped. I was hopelessly confused and went round the outside carefully until I got the exit to the M1. I heard the person who designed this got an award. I would have charged him with manslaughter."

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by wisbad1

If you drive a crappy car, everyone will watch out for you!

Very true. LOL.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I have. But they were in a golf cart so it doesn't count.
Honest. At the roundabout by SeaBreeze. I thought for sure I was going to see a fatality, however, all of the automobile traffic stopped, and the driver of the cart got out of that situation alive and unharmed.
Not sure if she made it home or not.

The one time I witnesses a wrong way driver in a RAB, there was honking and pointing going on with all the drivers withing the RAB. Thank goodness all who were in the RAB were aware of the wayward driver who got out of the RAB without causing a collision.