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Old 10-22-2023, 06:59 AM
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Watch video in link. Interesting
I lived near some years ago, and used it regularly on way to work.
It's actually a brilliant system, and works well.
There are two in UK using that system.
Maybe TV is not ready for it yet!
You may spot that the mini roundabouts are just a painted circles, no raised centers.
There are many roundabouts with just that painted circle at junctions all over UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVF1rnUKHw
Now that's roundabout! Brilliant. I particularly like the mini roundabouts within the Magic Roundabout.
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If you drive a crappy car, everyone will watch out for you!
I tend to be careful around the expensive brands and classic cars. Those drivers seem to believe they own the road. And, if I do cause an accident with one, I am most likely going to have to spend days in court. The owners will make certain they get every penny allowed. The man who owned a Lexus and beat an 87 yr old to death (and other similar stories) is something I remember and reminds me to be cautious.

The crappy cars are usually work vehicles. I watch them because they may not be familiar with the area.

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Old 10-23-2023, 01:37 AM
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How can we have 90 posts on the umpteenth thread on this topic and people STILL post incorrect information?
Might you be overestimating humans' abilities? :-)
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Old 10-23-2023, 12:24 PM
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Might you be overestimating humans' abilities? :-)
It seems that the root cause of almost all these roundabout mistakes is that the driver at fault foolishly ASSUMES that the car on the inside lane will keep going around. You know what they say about ASSUME?
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We were in a double- 2 lane round about, in the right lane. As I was about to pass a right hand turn and continue on in the round about, a driver next to me in the left lane made a sudden turn in front of me to exit the round about. I had to slam on the brake to avoid getting hit.

This started me thinking- If you are in the left lane of the round about you always run the risk that someone in the right lane will be in your way when it's time for your exit. Just because you have been passing right turns without taking them- someone just entering on the right could be in your way when you take the 3rd exit.

What am I missing? is there a way for someone in the right lane to avoid getting hit by a driver turning in from the left- or is it 100% trusting every driver in the left to not hit you? Seems like a crap shoot.

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Unfortunately too many don’t know what they are doing. The right lane must exit turn 1 or 2. The left lane can never exit the first turn but can exit turns 2, 3 or 4. If someone is next to them when they get to turn 3 the other car either failed to get off at exit 2 or failed to yield when entering on the opposite side, either way the car in the right lane would be at fault if anything happened.
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Unfortunately too many don’t know what they are doing. The right lane must exit turn 1 or 2. The left lane can never exit the first turn but can exit turns 2, 3 or 4. If someone is next to them when they get to turn 3 the other car either failed to get off at exit 2 or failed to yield when entering on the opposite side, either way the car in the right lane would be at fault if anything happened.
All of that reasoning fails when you consider that cars can enter in 4 places. Counting the number of exits to apply rules to straight/exit per lane is different depending upon when they entered relative to yourself. There are combinations of where they enter, each follows every "rule" and yet their paths cross forcing someone to take evasive action.

It's not that they don't know what they are doing. It's that people are certain that only they know the rules. Everyone else does it wrong.
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Old 10-24-2023, 03:27 PM
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All of that reasoning fails when you consider that cars can enter in 4 places. Counting the number of exits to apply rules to straight/exit per lane is different depending upon when they entered relative to yourself. There are combinations of where they enter, each follows every "rule" and yet their paths cross forcing someone to take evasive action.

It's not that they don't know what they are doing. It's that people are certain that only they know the rules. Everyone else does it wrong.
Rewind back to post #28 to see the discussions on why that statement is incorrect.
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Attached is a picture of a type of mini roundabout in Europe. I drive extensively and have seen multitudes of similar in our country. I grew up in Pittsburgh where there are many.

The difference? Most Americans do not call these roundabouts. They treat them like a normal intersection stopping before going around. They are one lane and easy to navigate.

I have yet to witness an American driver keeping speed and not stopping before entering. In Europe, they do the opposite. Keep their speed unless another driver is at the circle. I often have to restrain my English friend when he is driving in the USA. He is an aggressive driver while most Americans are defensive drivers. This ticks him off and he wants to prove his point and then goes faster. Two different cultures; two different ways of looking at things.

In my opinion, the pic of what Europeans call a mini roundabout is not similar to the roundabouts in the Villages because there is no inner circle, no resident gates, and we have more RABS in close proximity on a given road.

Are the adjectives larger and smaller the correct ones to describe the difference? Probably not, sorry for my part of the confusion.
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The above picture does not look like a roundabout to me. It looks like an intersection with a plant stuck in the middle.
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The above picture does not look like a roundabout to me. It looks like an intersection with a plant stuck in the middle.
Right! In America, that is how we describe them. An intersection. In Europe, they are called mini roundabouts.There are other types, some with a circle and arrows painted on the roads, but none which we would define as roundabouts in the States.

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All of that reasoning fails when you consider that cars can enter in 4 places. Counting the number of exits to apply rules to straight/exit per lane is different depending upon when they entered relative to yourself. There are combinations of where they enter, each follows every "rule" and yet their paths cross forcing someone to take evasive action.

It's not that they don't know what they are doing. It's that people are certain that only they know the rules. Everyone else does it wrong.

It only applies where you enter and what lane you’re in.
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When people finally realize you don’t make a right hand turn from the left lane! Wouldn’t do that on a regular road so not sure why people think they can do that on a round about! If you can’t get over then go around again and get in the proper lane to turn! The same for a left hand turn…can’t turn left from a right hand lane!
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The above picture does not look like a roundabout to me. It looks like an intersection with a plant stuck in the middle.
Is that a golf cart roundabout?
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When you enter the roundabout in the right lane ….you have to exit the 1st or 2nd right exit, if you go to the third then you are in the wrong.
Enter in the left lane you have to exit the 2nd or 3rd or 4th right exit.
It’s posted at every roundabout it’s not that hard
Just adding here, most people seem to forget that option for a U-turn. You can definitely exit at "6" from the left lane as well.
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In TV you are driving because there is no public transportation. All other alternatives are either too expensive or cumbersome. Golf carts can’t go everywhere and some places are too far for electric carts. Although some people narrow their world and get by with golf cart paths.
Aha! The *real* reason that golf carts are so popular in TV! They allow you to avoid those scary roundabouts! :-)
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