[Bruiser1]

Originally Posted by pooh

This picture shows how to use the roundabouts....fairly simple....

I have seen these maps in various locations. Maybe this sh
ould be in the welcome packet to our visitors. I first encountoured roundabouts in England (and mind you it was on a different lane (mirror image). That really forced you to concentrate.

Roundabouts are the current vogue in Highway design . Every road project I worked on for utility relocation seemed to have a roundabout.

[Suzi]

I think the round-abouts are the best alternative to conventional stop signs or traffic lights.
By no means are they without problem. I am never able to go from 466A to 466 without some driver doing something crazy. It requires absolute concentration - that is why, if I need to travel long distances, I prefer to travel by another route. 301, racetrack road, 441/27 generally have less traffic in such close quarters. I trust myself but I'm less trusting of other drivers.

[Cathy H]

Last year they added signs to depict how to use lanes in the circle, & in some circles they have striped 2 lanes to one, but there is no hope here. The circles are designed for low speed & low traffic volume, but too many cars going too fast are causing lots of fender benders. Eventually we will need speed bumps, signals and neighborhood watch agents with flags to reduce the carnage.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

Last year they added signs to depict how to use lanes in the circle, & in some circles they have striped 2 lanes to one, but there is no hope here. The circles are designed for low speed & low traffic volume, but too many cars going too fast are causing lots of fender benders. Eventually we will need speed bumps, signals and neighborhood watch agents with flags to reduce the carnage.

In which case we will ALL be using 301 and 441 exclusively! Seriously, I see far more people not following the rules at roundabouts than I do at stop signs and traffic lights. For every accident reported at a signaled intersection, I could report three at the St. James gate roundabout alone. It's a constant problem.

Maybe the statistics say that roundabouts are safer, but I don't think it holds true here. And I rarely encounter a roundabout on Buena Vista or Morse during the day that I don't have to stop due to the flow of traffic, so I don't see where they're easing the traffic backup all that much. JMO. I'd feel safer with stop signs and traffic signals.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I think what Bonanza meant was not that you had to stop IN a roundabout, but that you had to stop AT a roundabout.

Could be.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by slipcovers

Just how would one make a left turn? Also how long would one wait for a light so 1 car could exit a village. I think the engineers and designers that made this place so efficient and amazing, not to mention BEAUTIFUL, knows what they are doing. Go down to Fort Myers and try to navigate all the traffic lights, now that is a disaster. NO THANKS

We lived in the greater Ft. Lauderdale area for many years
and the traffic does flow there, without any circles whatsoever.
Many of the traffic lights are either programmed by time
or by sensors in the street.
The wait is never long enough to get annoyed,
even during rush hour.

The circles are not efficient.
We have to slow or stop at each circle
because most of the population doesn't
know how to navigate them and
that will never change.
The circles are also gas guzzlers.

We would not need many traffic lights on Morse and Buena Vista --
possibly another 2 or so, in addition to the existing
ones at 466 and 466A.

That's what would be efficient, however
you can stay happy because nothing will ever change !

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by slipcovers

And what does a stop signs and red traffic light mean? There was a traffic light a mile from my house in Ma with 5 streets exiting at the intersection. People were taking right on red and throw in a little road rage and there were always accidents. Now keeping in mind, this is not a congested area but a country town. Four years ago they did a feasibility and decided a rotary would be best. The know-it-alls said it would not work. Well, guess what, it is a blessing. Traffic flows, no free-for-all, road rage and no major accidents. Also a landscaping business came in a put beautiful flower and shrubs in the center, just like TV.

I know exactly what you mean and I am sure
it eased up on the accidents and helped the flow of traffic.
When you have five streets converging,
that is when most cities put in those circles.

There are quite a few of what you're describing in
south Jersey near Philadelphia.
However, the difference between the kind of circle
you are describing and the circles we have here is the size.
The circles here are so small, there isn't enough space
for them to be effective and work the way they should.

[slipcovers]

The problem is the drivers, not the roundabouts. Why is everyone in a rush, where is the emergency ? Of course you have to slow down at roundabouts. You also have to slow down at a yellow light and stop at a red light and wait. Like I said before, we need education on driving rules. It is a known fact that the elderly are bad drivers, bad eyesight, hearing and unable to turn head easily. The signs in TV are too small, especially exiting the tunnels.
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[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by pooh

This picture shows how to use the roundabouts....fairly simple....

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Oh pooh, but what about.....................................

Originally Posted by pooh

What Bogie, what???

All those posters who have the "wait but............crazy ideas that really do not make it simple.