[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Dotneko

Sounds like you may not have yielded to cars on the rotary when entering. If he was already on the rotary and you were entering, you needed to yield.

Yes, I think you are exactly right.

[DARFAP]

What did the official replay review show?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Dotneko

We dont know that the left lane person wasnt changing into the right lane to exit assuming the OP would yield as he should. If you enter the RAB at 12 oclock, and want to exit at 3 oclock, you have to execute a lane change between 6 oclock and 3 oclock. That assumes that no one is occupying the right lane.....I read it that the OP was entering at 6 oclock. He should have yielded.

How else would someone coming from 12 oclock exit at 3 oclock if they DIDNT execute a lane change on the curve??

NEVER change lanes in a roundabout.

You DO NOT need to execute a lane change between 6 oclock and 3 oclock to exit the roundabout, you just need to enter in the left lane and exit in the left lane.

[Florida Fan]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Well, sadly, it happens much more than anyone would ever guess ! Happened to us just a couple days before Christmas at round-about nearest Savannah center and Glen View club. Don't know how we managed to avoid collision, though we KNOW to expect that ! Don't want to blame ever "evil" on "snowbirds", but have to admit it does happen more often during the "winter"...perhaps just due to more people, not where they are from or how they are used to using roundabouts ! ? Just a casual observation, but it also appears there are HUGE numbers of people who not know the significance of solid, versus "dotted" lines on any roadway, go figure ? Thought that would be rather consistent no matter what state (or even country ?) they are from ? Also, must be a huge inconsistency in each state's laws regarding CROSS WALKS. Apparently, the rules of the road in some states must not require autos to stop when individuals are IN the cross walk...or at last it seems so (?)

If you are the same person that posted this same scenario on Next Door, YOU are the one that was in the wrong. You said you were in the outside lane going 3/4's the way around. Maybe you should learn the roundabout rules.

[sloanst]

Originally Posted by rhood

I was going straight through a roundabout and a car exiting from the left hand lane turned right in front of me to exit. I had no option but to hit that car. WTF, since when do you turn right from the left hand lane in front of another car?

How to navigate a round about is posted on a sign at every entrance. Not hard to understand.

[Two Bills]

OP just arriving at roundabout.
Slow down.
Car just coming from left in inside lane
Outside lane clear, lets go for it.


Wish I had obeyed the 'Yield' sign!

[hoot2602]

You better get yourself educated on RAB rules. You hit a car trying to exit from inside lane...you have to yield to them. General rule: if you want to exit at first exit, enter RAB in outside lane; if you want to exit at second exit you can go into RAB in
inside or outside lane; if you want to exit at third exit, go into RAB at inside lane. Car in outside lane must yield to cars in inside lane. You were wrong!

[Koapaka]

Which is why we have a rear/front windshield cam. Too much nonsense and too many people unaware or unwilling to drive correctly. The fact they can save you way more than they cost in a single case with your insurance company should tell ya they are worth their weight in gold. Beyond so when it is a he said/she said type of incident occurs, both in roundabouts and parking lots where it seems to be the wild, wild west given certain times of the year.

[Romad]

Which driver crossed a line and didn’t yield?

All of the crashes are caused by drivers failing to yield when entering the circle and going left from the outside lane. I have yet to see a circle where a driver on the inside lane is required to yield whether going straight or exiting left, and in some cases also have the right away exiting right (Lake Miona going south on Buena Vista).

Garmin sells good cameras to video people failing to yield and causing “accidents.”

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by Dotneko

We dont know that the left lane person wasnt changing into the right lane to exit assuming the OP would yield as he should. If you enter the RAB at 12 oclock, and want to exit at 3 oclock, you have to execute a lane change between 6 oclock and 3 oclock. That assumes that no one is occupying the right lane.....I read it that the OP was entering at 6 oclock. He should have yielded.

How else would someone coming from 12 oclock exit at 3 oclock if they DIDNT execute a lane change on the curve??

There are literally signs explaining what you can and cannot do in each lane before entering the round about. If you’re in the inside (left) lane, the arrow states you can continue going through the roundabout and the outside (right) lane has an arrow that states you can go straight, OR turn right. It’s the exact same as any road. You wouldn’t turn right from the middle lane. You’d go to the right lane. But, in any case, the signs explain it.

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by hoot2602

You better get yourself educated on RAB rules. You hit a car trying to exit from inside lane...you have to yield to them. General rule: if you want to exit at first exit, enter RAB in outside lane; if you want to exit at second exit you can go into RAB in
inside or outside lane; if you want to exit at third exit, go into RAB at inside lane. Car in outside lane must yield to cars in inside lane. You were wrong!

These are the rules…….Drivers entering the roundabout must yield to traffic already in the circle and are directed in one-way, counterclockwise direction. For multi-lane roundabouts, stay in the left lane to turn left and the right lane to turn right, and all lanes to go through, unless otherwise directed by signs or pavement markings. No the outside car doesn’t yield to the inside car trying to turn right from the inside lane.

[Kelevision]

Holy moly, I cannot believe how many of you think it’s okay for the inside, left lane to turn right through a RAB. Jeez, no wonder there’s so many accidents.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

Holy moly, I cannot believe how many of you think it’s okay for the inside, left lane to turn right through a RAB. Jeez, no wonder there’s so many accidents.

They are NOT turning "right". If they are proceeding 180 or 270 degrees, they can be in the left (inner) lane---for 270 they MUST be in the inner lane. Exiting in accordance with the signage is NOT turning right from the "left" lane. Perhaps it would help some people understand if we exclusively used "inner and outer" rather than "left and right" within a RB. The problem arises when somebody enters a RB when traffic is coming around in EITHER lane. This leads to the scenario described by the OP. The other problem comes when some yahoo tries to go to the third exit in the outer lane, which btw I have seen three times this past week----I will not stir the pot by mentioning what state issued the license plates.

Originally Posted by Dotneko

Sounds like you may not have yielded to cars on the rotary when entering. If he was already on the rotary and you were entering, you needed to yield.

Exactly. Not all roundabouts have solid lines. Dotted lines allow cars entering to turn into the roundabouts and to decide which lane they need to be in to continue around the roundabout. "Residents" need to switch lanes sometimes to enter the "resident" gate lane so they cross over from left to right. ALWAYS presume that the car already in the roundabout to your left IS going to cut to the right as a "resident" and you will avoid t-boning them. This IS an over 55 community with public roads, you would think people would expect slower speeds in the roundabouts (its 20 mph in the roundabouts and 35 on mainroads like Morse and Buena Vista) . There is definite confusion as to which cars follow the dotted lines. Most roundabouts show arrows as to which lane to "hold" but not all. Just presume they are going to shift right. Leave the space.

[Byte1]

Exactly why there should ONLY be one lane in the RABs. New folks as well as old residents will continue to argue how to manipulate the two lanes. Sure it would slow down traffic in the Villages. Sure it would stop some folks from taking short cuts through the Villages. The Villages is a retirement community, thus no one should be in a hurry to begin with. One lane of traffic in the circles would probably stop most of the accidents in the Villages.