[twoplanekid]

Have I misread some of the advice presented on this forum where it is recommended that I stay in the left lane when turning left to continue to the gate keeper station rather than drift over to the right for the resident�s gate? This new illustration seems to imply that no one in the right lane should turn left. That being the case, one in the left turn lane could drift to the right for the resident�s gate. An example of this would be traveling south on Buena Vista to enter the roundabout turning left to be on Hillsborough Trail heading to my house in the Village of Lake Deaton. Yet, I see many people in this roundabout right lane turning left as they head for the right side lane for the residential gate.

If true, the markings in the roundabouts could be refined to show no left turn from the right lane. What do you think about this new take on this no left turn from the right lane?

See what is on the district office web site
(( Remember: To avoid conflict, do not use the right-hand lane to make a left turn through the roundabout.))

http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf

[tomwed]

Welcome to the Villages! We're here to help.

[JoMar]

No left turn from the right lane. When you head to the gate there is a solid line for a short while then a broken line. If no one is in the resident lane that's when you move over. If someone is in the lane I will go through the visitors gate or wait until the resident line ends. Of course if you are the only one in the circle and nobody is waiting to get into the circle you can slide over. I have been here a year and have seen two accidents when a left turn is made from the right lane. I always use turn signals in the round a bout and always expect the guy in the right lane will turn left or if I am in the right lane the guy in the left lane will slide to the right lane when exiting. In a month or two, it will get exponentially worse.

[Bonny]

[surgees]

Originally Posted by Bonny

I love it Bonnie... hope you don't mind if we pull up chairs and join you!

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by surgees

I love it Bonnie... hope you don't mind if we pull up chairs and join you!

Absolutely and I'll enjoy a beer or 2 with you.

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Have I misread some of the advice presented on this forum where it is recommended that I stay in the left lane when turning left to continue to the gate keeper station rather than drift over to the right for the resident�s gate? This new illustration seems to imply that no one in the right lane should turn left. That being the case, one in the left turn lane could drift to the right for the resident�s gate. An example of this would be traveling south on Buena Vista to enter the roundabout turning left to be on Hillsborough Trail heading to my house in the Village of Lake Deaton. Yet, I see many people in this roundabout right lane turning left as they head for the right side lane for the residential gate.

If true, the markings in the roundabouts could be refined to show no left turn from the right lane. What do you think about this new take on this no left turn from the right lane?

See what is on the district office web site
(( Remember: To avoid conflict, do not use the right-hand lane to make a left turn through the roundabout.))

http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf

Personally I do not think additional lane markings will help, there are too many people who do not read, understand, or just completely ignore signs.
When there is traffic, I simply go in the visitor gate. These have a card reader also. It would be nice if the card readers were located earlier in the lane. I have had my card out, and the gate master was already at the door, and I am explaining that I am a resident....Oh well.

[tomwed]

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[Bryan]

There is no such thing as a "left turn from a roundabout". All turns from the roundabout are right turns. It just depends on whether you go 90 degrees around (a logical right turn), 180 degrees (logically straight through the roundabout), or 270 degrees (a logical left turn from your entry point). Keep in mind that anyone in the right lane at a roundabout, your lane goes right at the exit (every exit). If you do not want to exit at that point, you are "officially" changing lanes into the other (left) lane to continue straight around the roundabout (or crossing the left lane to return to the right lane after the exit you did not take) and it is your job to make sure that lane change or lane crossing can be done safely. For people driving in the inside lane of a roundabout, at each exit their lane splits and they can turn right on continue around the roundabout without changing lanes in either case. They have the right of way to make the right turn.

[JMEZARIC3]

Originally Posted by Bryan

There is no such thing as a "left turn from a roundabout". All turns from the roundabout are right turns. It just depends on whether you go 90 degrees around (a logical right turn), 180 degrees (logically straight through the roundabout), or 270 degrees (a logical left turn from your entry point). Keep in mind that anyone in the right lane at a roundabout, your lane goes right at the exit (every exit). If you do not want to exit at that point, you are "officially" changing lanes into the other (left) lane to continue straight around the roundabout (or crossing the left lane to return to the right lane after the exit you did not take) and it is your job to make sure that lane change or lane crossing can be done safely. For people driving in the inside lane of a roundabout, at each exit their lane splits and they can turn right on continue around the roundabout without changing lanes in either case. They have the right of way to make the right turn.

The right lane(outside lane) should never be used to travel 270 or 360 degrees in a roundabout,only use the right lane to travel 90 or 180 degrees.Why 270 and 360 degree travel is allowed makes no sense to me.I try to avoid having any traffic next to me when entering a roundabout,too many drivers change lane in roundabouts.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Have I misread some of the advice presented on this forum where it is recommended that I stay in the left lane when turning left to continue to the gate keeper station rather than drift over to the right for the resident�s gate? This new illustration seems to imply that no one in the right lane should turn left. That being the case, one in the left turn lane could drift to the right for the resident�s gate. An example of this would be traveling south on Buena Vista to enter the roundabout turning left to be on Hillsborough Trail heading to my house in the Village of Lake Deaton. Yet, I see many people in this roundabout right lane turning left as they head for the right side lane for the residential gate.

If true, the markings in the roundabouts could be refined to show no left turn from the right lane. What do you think about this new take on this no left turn from the right lane?

See what is on the district office web site
(( Remember: To avoid conflict, do not use the right-hand lane to make a left turn through the roundabout.))

http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf

Yes that is all correct. The only thing about changing lanes to get to the resident's gate is that you have to be very aware of people in the right hand lane who might not understand the rule. You also want to be aware of people that are entering at the entrance just before your exit.

I think that calling these left and right hand turns complicate the matter. I always think of entering and exiting the round about at points on a clock face. You enter at 6:00. if you intend to exit at 3:00 you must use the right hand lane. You may use either lane if you are going to exit at 12:00 (going straight through) and you must use the left hand lane if you intend to exit at 9:00.
These may also be referred to as the first, second and third exits.

The problem with talking about left and right hand turns is that all three exits require a right hand turn.

However you look at it, you need to be very aware of cars in the other lanes and expect them to do the unexpected. We have a lot of visitors and new people here. Many of them don't know or understand the rules yet. I had a woman take the third exit from the right hand lane when I was taking the second exist from the left hand lane. If had not jammed on my brakes, I would have hit her in the drivers side door. But, I was watching her in the mirror and at least knew she was there.

And always, when entering a round about, always put down your cell phone and refrain from texting while in the round about.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by JoMar

No left turn from the right lane. When you head to the gate there is a solid line for a short while then a broken line. If no one is in the resident lane that's when you move over. If someone is in the lane I will go through the visitors gate or wait until the resident line ends. Of course if you are the only one in the circle and nobody is waiting to get into the circle you can slide over. I have been here a year and have seen two accidents when a left turn is made from the right lane. I always use turn signals in the round a bout and always expect the guy in the right lane will turn left or if I am in the right lane the guy in the left lane will slide to the right lane when exiting. In a month or two, it will get exponentially worse.

Turn signals in round abouts always confuse me. People put them on at different times. I don't know if they're changing lanes or what they think they're doing.
I've been in back of people that put on their left hand turn signal when entering the round about then switch to the right hand signal when exiting.

I don't believe that the law calls for signals when using round abouts and I don't know that they make any difference. Like I said, they just confuse me.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bryan

There is no such thing as a "left turn from a roundabout". All turns from the roundabout are right turns. It just depends on whether you go 90 degrees around (a logical right turn), 180 degrees (logically straight through the roundabout), or 270 degrees (a logical left turn from your entry point). Keep in mind that anyone in the right lane at a roundabout, your lane goes right at the exit (every exit). If you do not want to exit at that point, you are "officially" changing lanes into the other (left) lane to continue straight around the roundabout (or crossing the left lane to return to the right lane after the exit you did not take) and it is your job to make sure that lane change or lane crossing can be done safely. For people driving in the inside lane of a roundabout, at each exit their lane splits and they can turn right on continue around the roundabout without changing lanes in either case. They have the right of way to make the right turn.

Common sense approach....except the signs don't say that. The signs say you should not exit the first exit from where you entered.

[The Buckeyes]

Originally Posted by tomwed

Since you may be holding a counterfeit card the gate master is obligated to ask you three questions before you can pass.

1. What is your name?
2. What is the purpose of your visit?
3. Why did you wake me up?

[Bogie Shooter]

It has been a while since we have had a roundabout thread.
Why not just search for one of the old ones....the opinions NEVER change.
I am betting 75 posts on this thread.