[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by katsudden

You are putting a lot of responsibility on others around you to be available to pass on that information. What if THEY need to leave to go home before you return? It's not their responsibility to hold your chairs until you return. That happened to us once. The people didn't have seat savers and they asked us to save their seats while they got drinks. Well....they were gone for over 1/2 hr. and we had to leave. So I have no idea what happened after we left.

A "lot of responsibility"?????? To say to a person looking at the chair, "Somebody is using it"?????

Hope no famine, drought, pestilence or war come.

[redwitch]

kat, I don't think you get it. Imagine you have been standing in a line for dinner for at least an hour. Just when you are two or three tables from being seated, a couple comes in and jumps to the front of the line, claiming they left their umbrella to hold their place while they went next door to have a drink. Don't know about you, but I'd be seriously angry.

Or how about you've been in line for hours or even overnight to get tickets to a concert (2 tickets per person max). Just when you're ready to purchase your ticket, the gentleman in front of you has 8 other people join him and they get the last tickets. Doubt if you'd be too happy.

Now, in either of those scenarios, if the people had stayed in line, there would be no issue. They were there first, plain and simple. But, if they leave, or have one person save for a group, that's just not right. It is rude, obnoxious and inconsiderate.

Once an event has started, there really shouldn't be an issue of people leaving their seats, especially if they leave something in it (like a bottle of water or a sweater) to let others know the seat is being used. Asking those seated around you to protect your seat should not be an issue. Most will tell you if they plan to leave shortly. No big deal.

You've been flogging a dead horse trying to justify what most would consider very rude behavior (not just here, but pretty much in most spots of the USA). There's no issue of coming early and sitting in a seat. There's a huge issue of coming early and saving a seat but not being present. You want to come early, fine; come, grab a good book, something to drink, a snack or two and wile away the afternoon waiting for the event to start. But don't expect people to like that you're tying something to a chair or leaving something in the seat and then going off to do your thing means that chair is yours for the duration. Few will say anything because they don't want a confrontation. Not being confronted about something doesn't make it right.

[Uptown Girl]

Last night, Katsudden edited her original post to add an "update".
Her addition is at the top of post #1.


I intend to have a beautiful day. I wish the same for all the great neighbors out there. You know who you are.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by redwitch

kat, ....

You've been flogging a dead horse trying to justify what most would consider very rude behavior (not just here, but pretty much in most spots of the USA). ....

As I said up-thread....also is a big problem on cruise ships on the pool deck and at land resorts pools for that matter.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

As I said up-thread....also is a big problem on cruise ships on the pool deck and at land resorts pools for that matter.

One of my friends here in TV told us Friday that one of the neighborhood pools was closed for a few days for renovation and someone came to the pool they frequent and put down 16 towels on chairs early in the day.

I stopped going to an art class at Colony Cottage. I was the first one there on my first day to attend and sat down in a seat and began to work. A woman came in and said that was her place and she needed both places at the (front)table for her art supplies. I moved and was told by others that she did that every week. I watched this happen for several weeks and it made me so.........upset. That was a couple of years ago, I don't know if it is still going on.

I began going to another art class in another rec center.

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

One of my friends here in TV told us Friday that one of the neighborhood pools was closed for a few days for renovation and someone came to the pool they frequent and put down 16 towels on chairs early in the day.

I stopped going to an art class at Colony Cottage. I was the first one there on my first day to attend and sat down in a seat and began to work. A woman came in and said that was her place and she needed both places at the (front)table for her art supplies. I moved and was told by others that she did that every week. I watched this happen for several weeks and it made me so.........upset. That was a couple of years ago, I don't know if it is still going on.

I began going to another art class in another rec center.

Gracie:

I know this is not you or me in terms that I would have said, "Is your name on this chair?" It just easier to move to another spot as you did.

This would have aggravated me too in terms of this person feels a sense of entitlement. Argggggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ewstanley]

This is off subject but I went to a Walk Away The Pounds class held at the local rec center and one woman told me I was in her spot. I came early and I am a full time resident. I just laughed and moved.

[buzzy]

I guess you just can't reason with a truly selfish person.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I stopped going to an art class at Colony Cottage. I was the first one there on my first day to attend and sat down in a seat and began to work. A woman came in and said that was her place and she needed both places at the (front)table for her art supplies. I moved and was told by others that she did that every week. I watched this happen for several weeks and it made me so.........upset. That was a couple of years ago, I don't know if it is still going on.

I began going to another art class in another rec center.

My sister lives in another retirement area. She was invited to attend a meeting, walked in with the friend who had invited her, went to lower her rear end into a seat when she felt something odd - looked around and an elderly lady using a cane with a crooked handle had put her cane through the chair and pulled it out from under my sister saying "I always sit there". So it's not just here, it's universal I'm afraid.

'ain't nothing nastier than a nasty old person!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by katsudden

UPDATE: I want to thank everyone for their posts. I have to admit that if people are going to be abusing the amount of time that they are leaving the saved seats empty while others could be sitting there, it would be very frustrating to others. I imagine that the villages will continue to have this problem as long as it is allowed and inconsistently controlled. People on both sides of the fence are not happy with how it is being handled. New owners and renters are joining this community every day. I believe that people are willing to follow any rules put to them. We must all be patient with each other. No one is meaning to be rude, just to find a way to enjoy.



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Sorry.....common sense still rules. And that would be you do not claim a seat and not be there.

[paulandjean]

With the seat saving at the squares, Lots of"rude" people there.

[ilovetv]

[QUOTE=katsudden;622388]UPDATE: I want to thank everyone for their posts. I have to admit that if people are going to be abusing the amount of time that they are leaving the saved seats empty while others could be sitting there, it would be very frustrating to others. I imagine that the villages will continue to have this problem as long as it is allowed and inconsistently controlled. People on both sides of the fence are not happy with how it is being handled. New owners and renters are joining this community every day. I believe that people are willing to follow any rules put to them. We must all be patient with each other. No one is meaning to be rude, just to find a way to enjoy.

This is not a problem that "The Villages" (management) has. This is a problem created by inconsiderate people who abuse the privilege of being LOANED a chair that belongs to the community.

When people abuse a privilege, it often gets taken away. Keep it up, and soon the privilege of being loaned community property will be replaced with a charge for chair use for the night, or they'll just say "Forget it" and offer no chairs for free....or there will be a cover charge to watch the entertainment.

I hope most people can cooperate to keep the privileges we have.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by ewstanley

I went to a Walk Away The Pounds class held at the local rec center and one woman told me I was in her spot. I just laughed and moved.

I've experienced exactly the same thing at a Yoga class. How on earth can you "reserve" a piece of floor? It's ridiculous. But I just politely moved. After all, Yoga is meant for relaxation and enjoyment. Life is too short to get into confrontations.

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

MINE!!! MINE!!! MINE!!!! MINE!!!!!!

It sounds like two-year-olds at the toy box on their first day of preschool.

The chairs supplied by TV for the entertainment are for community use, first come, first served. But if you're going to take chairs and not USE them for HOURS, then that is just plain selfish and arrogant. Other people who need to sit down end up standing while some selfish seat-saver is off shopping or something that is not watching the entertainment.

The best approach of all is what they do at Brownwood: You're handed a chair as you enter. If you go there ahead of the time, before chairs are distributed, then TOO BAD!! Bring your own!!

Lastly: I am grateful that we even HAVE live music every night!!! There's no place else like this, where there is live music and dancing WITHOUT A COVER CHARGE......every night times 3....free entertainment at 3 squares!

The ingratitude here from a few is appalling and embarrassing.

This the type of mentality that I brought up in another post regarding a sense of entitlement, that was assured did not exist.....Not everyone, but by golly just enough.....

[CSB1228]

Originally Posted by katsudden

I enjoy it here just fine when people are respectful. By the way...I have witnessed people taking off seat savers after the entertainment has started. When the original people come back to their seats, the new "sitters" simply say that there were no cushions on the seats when they arrived. No one says anything because they don't want to start a fight.

in 5 years, I've never had such a thing happen.