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About a year ago, I was headed to the ladies' room at the Walmart on 466 - a man about 15 feet in front of me, on a cell phone. He went straight to a stall (happened to be the handicapped one) and I heard him tell whomever was on the other end of the cell that apparently he walked into the wrong one because he didn't see any urinals. Then I heard the flush. There were 2 or 3 women coming in and out but I guess he was concentrating on the phone call. Easy to do.
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I talked to one of the guys who works at Laurel Manor and that I know relativey well. He knew of the incident and here's the facts as he knows them (he took the report from a party who was IN the pool, not on the ladies in the shower or locker room.

There was a loud scream and a man came bolting out of the women's area. He was obviously very embarassed and left the scene in his golf cart immediately. He was told by a swimmer that the man had inadvertently entered the wrong area and immediately left. Both the woman in the shower and the one in the locker area were fine, just startled. There was NO groping, no sexual assault; just an unfortunate mistake so far as anyone can tell.

However, the story did get around the pool and, of course, like the old game of telephone got quite embellished. Since someone did in fact scream and there was in fact a male in the wrong area, it made it very easy to turn a mistake into a heinous act.

Not every act by a male is a sexual assault. Not every rumor (heck, make it MOST), is true even though there may be a grain of truth in them. Hope this helps clear up the mess.
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I talked to one of the guys who works at Laurel Manor and that I know relativey well. He knew of the incident and here's the facts as he knows them (he took the report from a party who was IN the pool, not on the ladies in the shower or locker room.

There was a loud scream and a man came bolting out of the women's area. He was obviously very embarassed and left the scene in his golf cart immediately. He was told by a swimmer that the man had inadvertently entered the wrong area and immediately left. Both the woman in the shower and the one in the locker area were fine, just startled. There was NO groping, no sexual assault; just an unfortunate mistake so far as anyone can tell.

However, the story did get around the pool and, of course, like the old game of telephone got quite embellished. Since someone did in fact scream and there was in fact a male in the wrong area, it made it very easy to turn a mistake into a heinous act.

Not every act by a male is a sexual assault. Not every rumor (heck, make it MOST), is true even though there may be a grain of truth in them. Hope this helps clear up the mess.
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With all the drama going on we may get the Bravo channel to create a TV show for us called "the Housewives of The Village"..we would give The housewives of Orange County a run for their money!!!
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Great idea! And I have a suggestion for the show’s premier:

We install cameras in the ladies shower room at Lake Miona recreation center and let them roll for 24 to 48 hours as the “Housewives of TV” take their showers!

Oh, forgot to mention a few stipulations.... just to heighten the “drama”

1) Each lady must be all alone in the shower/dressing area
2) No other person is allowed to be any closer than the outside pool area and there
must be loud music playing as each lady takes her shower
3) Each lady must spend 15 minutes in the shower/dressing room......which is typically how long it should take to enter the room, disrobe, shower, dress and re-apply make-up.

I suggest we title the show something “catchy”....how about....”Waiting for Groper”
Any volunteers?

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This is now absurd.............
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I am new to this and just have a few post. We own a home but have it rented until next year. I do have a comment after reading about this topic and hope some will fine it revelant to the topic.
Last Aug. we were staying in my sister/brother-in-law's home. We were at one of the pools and I was leaning against the fence next to the mail area ( I was being nosey and looking at an awesome golf cart). I over hear loud voices coming from the back of the mail room. At first I thought it was just two employees talking but soon could hear the fear in the woman's voice. To make this story short it was a man shouting at the woman postal worker over and over about his mail. She kept saying it wasn't her fault and it wasn't her route. He just wouldn't let up on her so I walked over to the back room and ask if she needed help. She was crying and said he wouldn't leave her alone. I told him he needed to leave and I steped in front of him and shut the door between them. ( Smart me--I had closed the door and left him outside with me!!) At that point he never looked at me but left on his golf cart.
I went back a few minutes later to see if she was O.K and gave her my name and number if she needed it. It wasn't an hour later that I got a call from the police department. They wanted a phone statement from me and wanted to have a personal statement from me the next day. They were going to come to where I was staying but the next morning they called to tell me they had spoken with the man and his wife and he has a brain tumor which they said explained his behavior. They were going to keep an eye on him and would keep my number if they needed it.
After posting all of this which was to be short-- I guess I just want to say I was happy with the quick follow up from Sumter County about this and to say that "things happen". Senior moments (yeal, I've gone into the men's room as well as my husband ending up in the ladies once or twice)not to mention other things that happen to us as we age. I'm not saying yes or no on the locker room issue but if you have an issue take the time to leave your name and number with someone .
By the way, I'm a really bad speller and all that but I'm fun and can't wait to be at TV. Be gentle on me------------------------
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I am new to this and just have a few post. We own a home but have it rented until next year. I do have a comment after reading about this topic and hope some will fine it revelant to the topic.
Last Aug. we were staying in my sister/brother-in-law's home. We were at one of the pools and I was leaning against the fence next to the mail area ( I was being nosey and looking at an awesome golf cart). I over hear loud voices coming from the back of the mail room. At first I thought it was just two employees talking but soon could hear the fear in the woman's voice. To make this story short it was a man shouting at the woman postal worker over and over about his mail. She kept saying it wasn't her fault and it wasn't her route. He just wouldn't let up on her so I walked over to the back room and ask if she needed help. She was crying and said he wouldn't leave her alone. I told him he needed to leave and I steped in front of him and shut the door between them. ( Smart me--I had closed the door and left him outside with me!!) At that point he never looked at me but left on his golf cart.
I went back a few minutes later to see if she was O.K and gave her my name and number if she needed it. It wasn't an hour later that I got a call from the police department. They wanted a phone statement from me and wanted to have a personal statement from me the next day. They were going to come to where I was staying but the next morning they called to tell me they had spoken with the man and his wife and he has a brain tumor which they said explained his behavior. They were going to keep an eye on him and would keep my number if they needed it.
After posting all of this which was to be short-- I guess I just want to say I was happy with the quick follow up from Sumter County about this and to say that "things happen". Senior moments (yeal, I've gone into the men's room as well as my husband ending up in the ladies once or twice)not to mention other things that happen to us as we age. I'm not saying yes or no on the locker room issue but if you have an issue take the time to leave your name and number with someone .
By the way, I'm a really bad speller and all that but I'm fun and can't wait to be at TV. Be gentle on me------------------------
Welcome to you Mrs. Bike.

I love that you have taken the time to tell us about this. It was very brave and kind that you closed that door. Will you be in Hadley again this season? The three of us G's live there. Please stop by!

I believe that we residents will be looking out for each other, just the way you did. We are not working, most of us anyway, and are old enough to know that bad things happen.

I hope that you will enjoy your time in The Villages.

Kindest wishes,
Gracie

P.S. I don't think anyone cares how anyone spells. That silly Russ Boston has a thing about Sumter and Sumpter, but he is just kidding around.
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This whole thread really reminds me that we have virtually no security in The Villages. Anybody can come through those gates and go anywhere anytime. It pays to be vigilent. I use the sport pools 3 times per week and have never once been asked for ID. To me, as nice as The Villages is, security is something that we need to work on.
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:01 AM
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This whole thread really reminds me that we have virtually no security in The Villages. Anybody can come through those gates and go anywhere anytime. It pays to be vigilent. I use the sport pools 3 times per week and have never once been asked for ID. To me, as nice as The Villages is, security is something that we need to work on.
The exercise class people at the sports pools have their IDs checked according to a family member who also uses these pools a few times a week. Security is an issue for the sports pools and unlike the roads in the Villages they are private property.
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I am new to this and just have a few post. We own a home but have it rented until next year. I do have a comment after reading about this topic and hope some will fine it revelant to the topic.
Last Aug. we were staying in my sister/brother-in-law's home. We were at one of the pools and I was leaning against the fence next to the mail area ( I was being nosey and looking at an awesome golf cart). I over hear loud voices coming from the back of the mail room. At first I thought it was just two employees talking but soon could hear the fear in the woman's voice. To make this story short it was a man shouting at the woman postal worker over and over about his mail. She kept saying it wasn't her fault and it wasn't her route. He just wouldn't let up on her so I walked over to the back room and ask if she needed help. She was crying and said he wouldn't leave her alone. I told him he needed to leave and I steped in front of him and shut the door between them. ( Smart me--I had closed the door and left him outside with me!!) At that point he never looked at me but left on his golf cart.
I went back a few minutes later to see if she was O.K and gave her my name and number if she needed it. It wasn't an hour later that I got a call from the police department. They wanted a phone statement from me and wanted to have a personal statement from me the next day. They were going to come to where I was staying but the next morning they called to tell me they had spoken with the man and his wife and he has a brain tumor which they said explained his behavior. They were going to keep an eye on him and would keep my number if they needed it.
After posting all of this which was to be short-- I guess I just want to say I was happy with the quick follow up from Sumter County about this and to say that "things happen". Senior moments (yeal, I've gone into the men's room as well as my husband ending up in the ladies once or twice)not to mention other things that happen to us as we age. I'm not saying yes or no on the locker room issue but if you have an issue take the time to leave your name and number with someone .
By the way, I'm a really bad speller and all that but I'm fun and can't wait to be at TV. Be gentle on me------------------------
I am very happy to see someone step up and take it upon himself to try and resolve a bad situation. Many people would have said you should call the local police (who get paid) or a retired policeman (who does not get paid) but do not involved yourself. There is a lot of advice -- who you should call and what you should do--everything except get involved yourself. I am very happy to see a breath of fresh air. You are a great addition to TV
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:15 AM
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Default Is there anybody who really believes that TV is anymore secure than any other

comparable community without the "traffic" gates?

How did we all survive coming from communities without gates?

If one has ever lived in a true gated community it is so obvious that TV is no more gated than downtown Orlando!

And for those who never lived in a gated community it is oh so obvious this is not a gated, secured facility.

The checking of cards is to protect our investment in TV amenities program from those who are not residents.

We are just very lucky to live in a place, like many others in the USA, that have low to no crime. As easy a target as seniors might be, we are trully blessed there is no more than there is today.

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Even if we had working security gates, with 75,000 residents, there is bound to be some trouble with that large population.
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Even if we had working security gates, with 75,000 residents, there is bound to be some trouble with that large population.
One of the Dell Webb's near the Villages has security gates, the other one probably too, and I have heard from a resident there that they still have problems with burglaries and the like.

Their population is no where near the Villages.

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