[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Village of Bridgeport at Laurel Manor is District 8 according to the Neighborhood page of The Villages website. Did you vote for those guys, GG?!!

No. I wasn't aware of the election to tell you the truth.

[Marathon Man]

The gentleman making the pro-striping comments was stopped by the chairman because his time had expired. Not because of what he was saying.

[Djembe dude]

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts. Striping isn't going to help the idiot passing you going over 20.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Djembe dude

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts. Striping isn't going to help the idiot passing you going over 20.

Striping is not the answer to all problems with golf cart accidents.


Today's news..........Villager arrested in Winn-Dixie parking lot for crashing his cart had tee many drinkie poos plus some pot....and you can see how his cart looks on the online news. He DIDN'T want bystanders to call the cops. He did not say whether he was for or against striping.

[biker1]

How would you suggest they start testing golf carts? There are over 50,000 golf carts in The Villages. Are you suggesting that testing stations be setup? Who is going to pay for that? Assuming you could test 100 carts a day, that would take 2 years to test them all. How often are you going to require a retest? You would have to pass some sort of law that required carts to be tested - good luck with that. Assuming you could actually test carts for a maximum speed, right after the test the owners could adjust the governor (for gas carts) to increase the speed above 20 mph. Carts from The Villages Golf Cart store come setup for a maximum of 20 mph. I know many people who put a zip tie on the governor to increase the speed to 25 mph or so. According to you, someone who goes 22 mph to pass a cart going 15 mph is an idiot. I generally prefer not to call people names.

Originally Posted by Djembe dude

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts. Striping isn't going to help the idiot passing you going over 20.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Djembe dude

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts....

And this relates to the striping issue....how? Never mind. Almost everybody in this thread already knows the answer...it doesn't!

[Mikeod]

I like the result of the MMP Discussion Group. I think markings at turns and medians and other potential obstructions will help day or night. Now, they have to follow up with data collection to see if there is a reduction in accidents, especially at those sites. Maybe then we can have further discussion of striping with Villages data to back it up.

I really did not like the idea of each CDD deciding how and what they were going to do. It could really make for an ugly situation where some paths are center striped and some are side striped and may be some have both. Whatever it is, it should be consistent throughout.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

Now, they have to follow up with data collection to see if there is a reduction in accidents, especially at those sites. Maybe then we can have further discussion of striping with Villages data to back it up.

How could they collect the data if it's voluntary?
Maybe with cameras? But who is going to look at all the video?
I thought about this quite a bit.
It's easy to put a camera at the gate and when the gate breaks look at the tape.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

I think markings at turns and medians and other potential obstructions will help day or night. Whatever it is, it should be consistent throughout.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Djembe dude

If you want the cart paths to be safer, start testing golf carts for legal speed limits 20 mph. and not allow any faster carts. Striping isn't going to help the idiot passing you going over 20.

Sorry, I can't see this as solely a speed issue. Are you suggesting that a driver who goes out on I-75 at 80 mph can handle a golf cart at 20 mph but not 23 mph? Just as that driver would adjust his/her speed for darkness/fog/rain on the interstate, they have to adjust on the MMPs. And just as heavier traffic dictates speed on the highway, the same is true on the paths. IF someone is not adjusting for these conditions, that just makes them a bad driver, and 3 mph of speed is not going to help them (or the rest of us). A lot of speed limits on roadways are somewhat arbitrary and in some cases political as well. Why 20 mph on a MMP and not 25 or 15? Personally, I like my cars with excess horsepower. If I do have to pass some clown going 40 mph on a 55 mph 2 lane road, I want to get out there when safe and get back on my side ASAP. I imagine the same principle applies to golf carts, although in my limited MMP experience I have never passed anyone. But if I do, I'd be a little fearful that my vehicle couldn't pass fast enough if "governed". On the highway, there usually is a little difference in your speed when passing as opposed to cruising along.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sorry, I can't see this as solely a speed issue. Are you suggesting that a driver who goes out on I-75 at 80 mph can handle a golf cart at 20 mph but not 23 mph? Just as that driver would adjust his/her speed for darkness/fog/rain on the interstate, they have to adjust on the MMPs. And just as heavier traffic dictates speed on the highway, the same is true on the paths. IF someone is not adjusting for these conditions, that just makes them a bad driver, and 3 mph of speed is not going to help them (or the rest of us). A lot of speed limits on roadways are somewhat arbitrary and in some cases political as well. Why 20 mph on a MMP and not 25 or 15? Personally, I like my cars with excess horsepower. If I do have to pass some clown going 40 mph on a 55 mph 2 lane road, I want to get out there when safe and get back on my side ASAP. I imagine the same principle applies to golf carts, although in my limited MMP experience I have never passed anyone. But if I do, I'd be a little fearful that my vehicle couldn't pass fast enough if "governed". On the highway, there usually is a little difference in your speed when passing as opposed to cruising along.

Then why even pass?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Then why even pass?

Why not?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Then why even pass?

When you encounter, lets say on a 2 lane section of US 301 posted at 60 mph, someone ahead of you going 35 mph you stay behind them for the next 30 miles???? If so, I applaud your patience, if not your blood pressure control. Likewise, although I have not yet had the pleasure, if I get behind someone driving a path at 11 mph and it's safe, I would not give a second thought to passing them especially on a 3 or 4 mile trip. How about you? would you stay behind either of these drivers? How about everyone else? I know, I know, we're retired, what's the rush. But there are a lot of things I'd rather do in retirement instead of crawling down a highway or a MMP. For most of us who have lived in New York all our lives, we'd rather eat shoe leather than drive behind those "drivers". Reminder, I'm not talking about those going 57 in a 60 zone or 18 on a MMP, I'm talking about the road litter that is so ridiculous that you just want to get a bulldozer and plow them off to the side.

[Mleeja]

This thread has ben on the topic of side striping, with a few diversions to stripping. If we all want to talk about regulating the speed of a cart, let's do this in its own thread. I am sure this topic will fire-up a lot of folks and the topic deserves a specific thread.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by tomwed

How could they collect the data if it's voluntary?
Maybe with cameras? But who is going to look at all the video?
I thought about this quite a bit.
It's easy to put a camera at the gate and when the gate breaks look at the tape.

You're right. You will not get data on all incidents, but, with all the publicity MMP safety has garnered, there may be an upturn in reported cases. Perhaps through the POA or VHA or even TOTV. Previously, the POA collected data only on incidents with personal injury.

Also, those who have concerns about certain areas being especially difficult or dangerous can report if they feel the markings help or not.