[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

This thread has ben on the topic of side striping, with a few diversions to stripping. If we all want to talk about regulating the speed of a cart, let's do this in its own thread. I am sure this topic will fire-up a lot of folks and the topic deserves a specific thread.

Probably, but side striping was introduced as a safety idea. Part of the argument against striping was based on the concept that it would not improve safety, but regulating speed by impairing a vehicle would, in the belief that speed was the major cause of safety issue, not visibility. So while it probably deserves it's own thread, it also has relevance to this one.

[Walter123]

Let me ask you a question....Mleeja.

Do you think a center line would accomplish the same thing as side stripping?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

When you encounter, lets say on a 2 lane section of US 301 posted at 60 mph, someone ahead of you going 35 mph you stay behind them for the next 30 miles???? If so, I applaud your patience, if not your blood pressure control. Likewise, although I have not yet had the pleasure, if I get behind someone driving a path at 11 mph and it's safe, I would not give a second thought to passing them especially on a 3 or 4 mile trip. How about you? would you stay behind either of these drivers? How about everyone else? I know, I know, we're retired, what's the rush. But there are a lot of things I'd rather do in retirement instead of crawling down a highway or a MMP. For most of us who have lived in New York all our lives, we'd rather eat shoe leather than drive behind those "drivers". Reminder, I'm not talking about those going 57 in a 60 zone or 18 on a MMP, I'm talking about the road litter that is so ridiculous that you just want to get a bulldozer and plow them off to the side.

I was referring to the MMP not a highway. Comparing the two is apples and oranges.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Why not?

Poster said he was fearful.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

This thread has ben on the topic of side striping, with a few diversions to stripping. If we all want to talk about regulating the speed of a cart, let's do this in its own thread. I am sure this topic will fire-up a lot of folks and the topic deserves a specific thread.

It's been beat to death on more than one thread.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I was referring to the MMP not a highway. Comparing the two is apples and oranges.

How so??? In both cases your travel time is essentially doubling due to the ineptness of the other driver, who should probably be driving a tricycle in the first place.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Probably, but side striping was introduced as a safety idea. Part of the argument against striping was based on the concept that it would not improve safety, but regulating speed by impairing a vehicle would, in the belief that speed was the major cause of safety issue, not visibility. So while it probably deserves it's own thread, it also has relevance to this one.

I'm with Mleeja...very little relevance. Speed limits never have and never should (imo of course) be a factor in the performance of any vehicle.

Safe passing is a legitimate reason to moderately and briefly exceed the speed limit. Emergencies is another. But even without these situations, governing the vehicle based on a somewhat arbitrary, variable, and very possibly changing speed limit is a very bad idea.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I'm with Mleeja...very little relevance. Speed limits never have and never should (imo of course) be a factor in the performance of any vehicle.

Safe passing is a legitimate reason to moderately and briefly exceed the speed limit. Emergencies is another. But even without these situations, governing the vehicle based on a somewhat arbitrary, variable, and very possibly changing speed limit is a very bad idea.

So, in other words, you agree with me.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So, in other words, you agree with me.

About the need to pass safely? Sure.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

About the need to pass safely? Sure.

Agreed. Which is the main reason it makes little sense to put governors on carts at 20 mph when that it is the speed limit. Would you buy a car that could never go more than 65 MPH?

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Agreed. Which is the main reason it makes little sense to put governors on carts at 20 mph when that it is the speed limit. Would you buy a car that could never go more than 65 MPH?

Are you directing that comment to me? I've expressed my agreement that vehicle speed governors is a very bad idea.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Walter123

Let me ask you a question....Mleeja.

Do you think a center line would accomplish the same thing as side stripping?

I am a supporter of striping. I've made this quite clear in my comments. (I have ZERO association with the POA) The issue generating the discussion is side striping. Do I think a center stripe could accomplish the same as side striping, yes and no. A center stripe will certainly provide a reference for the driver in darkness and rainy weather while defining the "lanes". Where the center stripe has its shortcomings is when you have on coming headlights blinding you. You will naturally look away from the light. Having the side stripe will provide a point of reference for the right hand side of the MMP.

The reflective nature of the stripes will define the path ahead of you far more than just with your headlights on the current MPPs. On several occasions I have offered to meet anyone at 6:30 in the morning. We would take a drive down the MMP on El Camino, then down Enrique Drive where the cart lane is marked with a reflective stripe to demonstrate how much better and further you can see the cart lane. To date no takers....

In utopia, we would have both center and side striping. In TV, except for district 4 where there is a center stripe, we have neither.

The latest plan by TV is a good alternative. I will support this plan as it will improve safety on the MMPs.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Are you directing that comment to me? I've expressed my agreement that vehicle speed governors is a very bad idea.

The agreed part was for you. The governor comment was for the one who originally suggested it. The car comment was for general consumption

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

The agreed part was for you. The governor comment was for the one who originally suggested it. The car comment was for general consumption

Ahh.

[Barefoot]

345 posts. Does everyone agree on center striping as a compromise?