[Jerseyborn]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

OP, are you suggesting that every house and building in an entire village have solar panels installed on the roof? Do you also want the taxpayers to fund tax credits for these systems? It would be much more efficient and effective for the power company to produce some of their power using solar panels at their plant. Solar systems for individual houses in The Villages are not sensible or cost effective.

We're from NJ where solar is installed for free with the company taking a %of the profits from the energy collected. Super surprised this is not available in the Sunshine State

[Lindaws]

Don’t agree

[john1006]

This article cherry picks stats. Such as most experts, without identifying who those "experts" work with or are paid by. Further if you go back through the past 25 years you will find those that were hotter and had more storms. As usual this type of climate change commentary is based on selected experts with things that "most" people believe.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

While I'm not sure that any one political party has a monopoly on this farce, it is correct to refer to it as a farce. Now, I know the true believers don't want to hear anything other than we need to combat "climate change" and save the planet, the following link is to an article on ABC news that gives a relatively simplistic explanation of our current climate period. The paleoclimatologist they cite differs a little from his colleagues in that he feels we would already be headed for another period of glaciation if it wasn't due to carbon emissions (mostly agriculture in Asia over the last 8,000 years, not your SUV), overall it is a pretty reasonable article.

What causes an ice age and what would happen if the Earth endured another one? - ABC News

Excellent article. Thanks for the link.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by coralway

Bad advice - windmills cause cancer. Must be true, was told this by a stable genius

Mr. Ed or the other one?

[Win1894]

The premise that solar is the savior of the planet is irritatingly ignorant. Do the physics. It's not green and it's not renewable. You've been sold a bill of goods. First, where do you think most PV cells come from - China. Second, what are you going to do for power when the sun don't shine or at night? Batteries you say - not possible. The battery capacity would have to be so massive it would shift the Earth's orbit.

So, after the 20 year lifespan of a solar panel, then what? There is no recycling capacity for solar panels, and what about all the heavy metals in the PV cells? When you need a new roof do you really want to pay for your inefficient solar array to be removed and then reinstalled over the new roof, and let's not even get into roof leaks or panels shorting out before their full lifespan. Oh, and did you know that solar panels lose between 1 to 2 percent of their efficiency every year?

So, on a sunny day you have all these panels producing electricity. What are you going to do with the excess capacity since it cannot be stored? then the sun goes down and BOOM now you have to stoke up the coal plant. Not an easy thing to do if you know anything about power generation.

There is only one solution even if you don't believe the dire predictions about global warming/climate change and that is to invest in 4th generation nuclear power run on Thorium (which we have at least a 1000 year supply in the US). It's clean, efficient, incredibly safe, virtually no waste , and non-proliferative. Additionally, its excess power can be used to purify water, and pull carbon dioxide out the the air and reduce it to hydrocarbon fuels - now that's renewable energy!

[Ptmckiou]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Please tell me that is a tongue in cheek joke, please. No one, perhaps with the exception of Al Gore, should believe any of this "global warming" garbage that is being shoved down our throats, although PT Barnum was right when he said that there is one born every minute. I have explained at least a dozen times that we have been in an ice age for 4+ million years with cyclical periods of glaciation and thaws (and therefore periods of warming and cooling). We have been through both the warming and cooling limbs of this cycle at least 2 dozen times in that period and 2 things are true-----
1) we are still here
2) It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUV'S OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY OF MAN

Our kids and grandkids?????? Not likely, although our descendants in about 15,000 years will live at the peak of the warming cycle and our coastal cities will be under 100 feet of water. But don't break out the sunscreen and swim trunks just yet, because 30,000 years after that, NY City will again be under 2 miles of ice.

But, if anyone doesn't understand the simple science behind paleoclimatology, then by all means let's spend 100 trillion dollars over the next 40 years to combat "global warming" What a joke!

PS: This is not to denigrate solar power---it is a good thing and there are plenty of reasons to utilize it. However "global warming" is NOT one of them

The earth does run in cycles. Most definitely….BUT, what you seem to always miss in the science is that since the industrial age, where man has created the combustion engine, science has tracked that the cycle has accelerated significantly. Is that a coincidence? No such thing as a coincidence in science. Mankind has added additional stress to those normal cycles. Thereby, mankind needs to curb their contribution to the cycles to stop its accelerating. Plus, that’s just common sense that you add extra CO2 to the earth, it’s going to have a reaction. Cause and effect. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see it.

[Ksfirefighter]

Just follow the money!

[toeser]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Since the thermometer is only about 150 years or so, not more than 200 years, the historical records really don't exist, so climate change is based upon analysis and theory, and only that. but long term is really more than 200 years. . . .

The most likely reason for long term climate change is most likely related to changes which are too small to measure over thousands of years. . .

Milankovitch (Orbital) Cycles and Their Role in Earth's Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

however, there are regional climates which change due to human behavior, such as creating more heat sinks from city construction, so if anything might be the recent cause of surface global temperature rise, it comes from the heat sinks which humans have created by turning cattle fields into roads and houses. . .

remember, anything related to money or funding of any sort is subject to abuse. .

The heat sink idea is totally valid and proven on a small scale by my incessant nighttime bike riding in multiple areas. Official thermometers tend to be in built up areas. As an example, I believe the official temperature for The Villages is from the east side of Sumter Landing. When I ride through that area, the thermometer on my bike almost always agrees with reported temperatures within a degree or so. However, if I ride up to the polo fields the temperature will usually be as much as 5 to 10 degrees cooler then that being reported for The Villages.

This happens in city after city, thus I believe our reported overnight low temperatures are considerably overstated.

[OrganicGal]

It is definitely time for the Villages to not just think about.... but act on decisions that have a positive environmental impact and lead by example. Solar is a beginning. We have the perfect climate for moving forward more aggressively. We have a responsibility to future generations. And no one seems to be addressing all the sprinklers that run throughout the day... in the middle of the day burning the grass and the worst are the sprinklers running in the middle of rainstorms! And then their is the fact that the Villages are the pesticide capital of the world.

Originally Posted by zendog3

This year we have experienced stronger storms, more frequent floods, droughts, forest fires, rising seas, melting glaciers, etc. Most people will agree that global warming, caused by the release of carbon dioxide into the air, is a primary driver of catastrophic weather events that will seriously impact the quality of life our children and grandchildren will inherit from us. The Villages is uniquely positioned to lead the nation in remediating the harmful effects of ongoing carbon dioxide pollution.

It would be a source of pride for all Villagers if the developer of The Villages, the preeminent builder in central Florida, and an enormously profitable business, would announce one of its forthcoming villages would be a “Solar Village.” Every house and public building in the solar village could be partially solar-powered.

As it has led in planned community development, The Villages can lead the nation in sustainable community development.

[Tadpole]

❣️🥰❤️ THANK YOU, THANK YOU❣️ This is SO WELL said and written that I'm saving it to respond to the *%(*)*& climate goofs.

[Ksfirefighter]

They will all be in the landfill

[biker1]

Sprinklers in the common areas often run during rainstorms because the level of the retention ponds is being managed. Most of the water for common area irrigation comes from the retention ponds and their levels need to be managed. Irrigation of residences during rainstorms could be an issue with the rain sensor or the rain sensor is functioning correctly but enough rain hasn’t fallen yet to trip it. Irrigation during the day doesn’t burn grass.

Originally Posted by OrganicGal

It is definitely time for the Villages to not just think about.... but act on decisions that have a positive environmental impact and lead by example. Solar is a beginning. We have the perfect climate for moving forward more aggressively. We have a responsibility to future generations. And no one seems to be addressing all the sprinklers that run throughout the day... in the middle of the day burning the grass and the worst are the sprinklers running in the middle of rainstorms! And then their is the fact that the Villages are the pesticide capital of the world.

[Ksfirefighter]

If you want to really create a change, go after the biggest users and polluters, like China!
They don’t really care about the environment. Just churning out cheap crap that nobody ever really needs.
If you want a change, stop buying from them and support those who are like minded. If nobody buys the crap they produce then production will fall and less pollution.

[Notsocrates]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I grew up on a farm where we had a lot of cows. They do not fart, they cannot fart! Cows have a ruminant stomach comprised of 4 separate compartments. If an animal with a ruminant stomach eats fresh clover hay, gas will build up in the stomach and eventually swell the stomach to where it will interfere with breathing and stop the heart causing death. The animal with a ruminant stomach cannot pass the gas. Horses are different case, they fart loudly and often.

1. Cows cannot digest grass (cellulose) because they lack the enzyme, cellulase, needed to metabolize that carbohydrate.

2. They are able to nourish themselves by having gut bacteria who do have cellulase. The end product of this metabolism is called carbon dioxide and is passed via the rectum which is called a fart.