[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

OP, are you suggesting that every house and building in an entire village have solar panels installed on the roof? Do you also want the taxpayers to fund tax credits for these systems? It would be much more efficient and effective for the power company to produce some of their power using solar panels at their plant. Solar systems for individual houses in The Villages are not sensible or cost effective.

If someone believes that solar panels are NOT sensible, then it is also NOT sensible to have had children and grandchildren and then great-grandchildren that will suffer in their lungs for oil-derived fuel when an electric car or truck is non-polluting, in itself and at the factory that produces it. They are simpler to build and last longer and are easier to maintain. That's about a win/ win/ win/win! The only other solution to US pollution is to MANDATE each married couple to have a maximum of 2 children. And, I know how much you-all LOVE MANDATES.
.......And, of course, those grandchildren WILL fall prey to a famous old philosopher that said, " wars and petulance" will control the levels of population". So, teach those grandchildren to shoot - they will have the unwashed hordes coming for their fat-city wealth and take it away (AND their lives). So, don't buy a Prius or a Tesla - and from heaven or wherever, you can watch them perish!

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If someone believes that solar panels are NOT sensible, then it is also NOT sensible to have had children and grandchildren and then great-grandchildren that will suffer in their lungs for oil-derived fuel when an electric car or truck is non-polluting, in itself and at the factory that produces it. They are simpler to build and last longer and are easier to maintain. That's about a win/ win/ win/win! The only other solution to US pollution is to MANDATE each married couple to have a maximum of 2 children. And, I know how much you-all LOVE MANDATES.
.......And, of course, those grandchildren WILL fall prey to a famous old philosopher that said, " wars and petulance" will control the levels of population". So, teach those grandchildren to shoot - they will have the unwashed hordes coming for their fat-city wealth and take it away (AND their lives). So, don't buy a Prius or a Tesla - and from heaven or wherever, you can watch them perish!

I didn't say that solar panels are not sensible. I said that solar panels attached to an asphalt shingle roof in The Villages to provide an inadequate amount of electricity for an individual house is not sensible or cost effective.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I grew up on a farm where we had a lot of cows. They do not fart, they cannot fart! Cows have a ruminant stomach comprised of 4 separate compartments. If an animal with a ruminant stomach eats fresh clover hay, gas will build up in the stomach and eventually swell the stomach to where it will interfere with breathing and stop the heart causing death. The animal with a ruminant stomach cannot pass the gas. Horses are different case, they fart loudly and often.

I did NOT know that ........thank you........I was believing the cow-exit-gas theory. Now I will put my dunce cap on and sit in a corner and meditate on why it is known that the Atlantic ocean is rising and temperature is rising and 97% of all scientists believe that the rise is man-made!

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If someone believes that solar panels are NOT sensible, then it is also NOT sensible to have had children and grandchildren and then great-grandchildren that will suffer in their lungs for oil-derived fuel when an electric car or truck is non-polluting, in itself and at the factory that produces it. They are simpler to build and last longer and are easier to maintain. That's about a win/ win/ win/win! The only other solution to US pollution is to MANDATE each married couple to have a maximum of 2 children. And, I know how much you-all LOVE MANDATES.
.......And, of course, those grandchildren WILL fall prey to a famous old philosopher that said, " wars and petulance" will control the levels of population". So, teach those grandchildren to shoot - they will have the unwashed hordes coming for their fat-city wealth and take it away (AND their lives). So, don't buy a Prius or a Tesla - and from heaven or wherever, you can watch them perish!

Does your house run on solar panels?

[Neils]

Fossils do not lie!!! Cooling and warming cycles are normal and not man made.
Follow the science

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That was to be expected.

Unfortunately, the powers that be have inundated and permeated the people's thinking that they are not capable of discerning the reality of our climate.

Joseph Goebbels put it best:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Interesting Goebbels quote. Reminds me of the same philosophy that lawyer Roy Cohen exposed and lived by.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Besides not being cost effective, I think solar panels are unsightly and actually deface the home. We will NEVER have solar panels on any home we own.

And it is also going to be "unsightly' when hordes of starving peasants storm NORTHWARD and throw / evict all the people in Florida and the rest of the US. Same thing will be happening in Europe! We will be dead, but our grandkids will be alive (for a while) and maybe we will be able to root for them as they try to cross the Canadian border and NOT get shot or imprisoned by the Canadian Mounties. Come on Jason don't give up, stay hidden in that cave. OH NO! I hope he is only wounded.
.....And windmills are unsightly, but don't worry, the Florida Tourist Industry lobbyists will prevent those ("unsightly") terrible, noisy machines. At least solar panels are quiet!

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I did some quick searching and found that and there are an estimated 989 million head of cattle in the world and 7.8 billion humans. So who do you think is generating the most methane from farts. A human on the average passes gas 10 to 18 times a day, that's a lot of gas.

Pull my finger

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

And it is also going to be "unsightly' when hordes of starving peasants storm NORTHWARD and throw / evict all the people in Florida and the rest of the US. Same thing will be happening in Europe! We will be dead, but our grandkids will be alive (for a while) and maybe we will be able to root for them as they try to cross the Canadian border and NOT get shot or imprisoned by the Canadian Mounties. Come on Jason don't give up, stay hidden in that cave. OH NO! I hope he is only wounded.
.....And windmills are unsightly, but don't worry, the Florida Tourist Industry lobbyists will prevent those ("unsightly") terrible, noisy machines. At least solar panels are quiet!

Loosen up the tinfoil.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Andyb

Maybe these things are happening because we are getting closer to the rapture.

Good one! That made me laugh - a good hearty laugh, thanks!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by mambeg

Nothing is free. Remember all solar panels will be in land fills in about 25 years, they do not last forever. China burns tons of coal fired mills to make the panels. The electrical infrastructure in the USA is about 1/2 of what we need at this point to charge the anticipated electrical cars we will all owns some day. Solar and wind generation will not be enough. If you want to do something, start at home. Look at the garbage we all throw out. All bought and paid for and will end up in a land fill or burnt.

AS to junk thrown out. Toys could be made from wood, which is a natural renewable, instead of plastic - which is based on oil, which is a finite quantity. Lots of things are and can be made out of wood. Because of global warming and overpopulation, the US is losing much of its valuable, renewable, wood resources. We worry greatly about oil spills and oil is a short-term, limited resource. It is US land and forests that we should be worried about. And because of global warming, our forests have more insect pests in them than ever before - it is a bad cycle that we are in!
..... And I could be, just as well, talking about WATER - that is being wasted on pecans and other water-wasting crops.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Jerseyborn

We're from NJ where solar is installed for free with the company taking a %of the profits from the energy collected. Super surprised this is not available in the Sunshine State

Don't be surprised......going from the Northeast to Florida......is like going on a fast time train back toward the dark ages. Well at least We have the Sales Tax, which is bad - but we can sluff most of it off onto the tourists.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I did NOT know that ........thank you........I was believing the cow-exit-gas theory. Now I will put my dunce cap on and sit in a corner and meditate on why it is known that the Atlantic ocean is rising and temperature is rising and 97% of all scientists believe that the rise is man-made!

Tell me how the ocean can be higher in the Atlantic and the other oceans aren't. Approximately 71% of the world is covered by water. All these oceans are connected to each other, so if one rises so will the rest. If 50 people go into a swimming pool at one end does the water not rise equally at the other end?
That 97% of all scientists is total BS, it is an invented number. There is no way you are going to get 97% of any group to agree on anything.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tadpole

❣️🥰❤️ THANK YOU, THANK YOU❣️ This is SO WELL said and written that I'm saving it to respond to the *%(*)*& climate goofs.

Only since there are only 2 sides here, then which side IS the nasty, dreaded "climate goofs"? Since THAT logically depends on which side someone is on?

[fcgiii]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I did NOT know that ........thank you........I was believing the cow-exit-gas theory. Now I will put my dunce cap on and sit in a corner and meditate on why it is known that the Atlantic ocean is rising and temperature is rising and 97% of all scientists believe that the rise is man-made!

There are six major sources of atmospheric methane: emission from anaerobic decomposition in (1) natural wetlands; (2) paddy rice fields; (3) emission from livestock production systems (including intrinsic fermentation and animal waste); (4) biomass burning (including forest fires, charcoal combustion, and firewood burning); (5) anaerobic decomposition of organic waste in landfills; and (6) fossil methane emission during the exploration and transport of fossil fuels.

90 to 95 percent of the methane released by cows comes out of their mouths, while 5 to 10 percent is released in the form of manure and flatulence.