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Ok, then how much more can they expand? And in what direction? Looks like it is clear sailing until Center Hill.
I thought I remembered an article saying they had purchased something like 10 miles south of 44 but I can't find it now. If that was correct then it would bring them to Center Hill.
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I seem to recall that village sales rep were spreading the word that the villages would be built out at 44. Thinking that info was to drum up resale business.
When they were selling between 466A and 44, the VLS sales agents would have had NO idea how far south building will stop.

But, as was said before, look at Brownwood - there are houses on 2 sides of it, not 4. Anyone could have assumed building was going to continue south.

I also think the Developer has a long term strategy (i.e. to expand south); but not the exact execution plan - (i.e. buy this plot of land, that plot of land, build here now, build here in 2033). Too many ‘what ifs’ over the next 10p 15 years.
Building speed will change dramatically if interest rates are 2.5% vs 7.5%.
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Ok, then how much more can they expand? And in what direction? Looks like it is clear sailing until Center Hill.
East or west or lots of open land along 466 and other places, would think that somewhere along the line the owners would be more interested in selling.
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Exactly what is the purpose of this thread? Saturday night trolling? You’ve been around long enough to know it’ll probably turn into a bash the south fest. I’m glad you’re happy where you’re at. I’m guessing most people are happy where they’re at. They just don’t see the need to post about how they like it more than another specific area.
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Ok, then how much more can they expand? And in what direction? Looks like it is clear sailing until Center Hill.
All I know is from a video where they said they have enough land to keep them building for the next 15+ years...

But who knows for sure?
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So what was the "sales technique" they used that caused them to need a "lottery' for the new homes south of 44?

What was their "scare tactic"?
There was no threats, people were truly worried the line was drawn in the sand, building was done. Where the rumors started no idea, just info spewing from MLS to buy preowned, before they were gone.

Our VLS, told us trying to get new was probably out of the question, because the wait list for what ever house was up next selling sight unseen. Yes reps were in the dark then.Multiple Strangers we played golf confirmed, each was on list for a house.

Our VLS said no worries if build does stop, houses come on the market everyday here. Someone dies, tee time available and house to sell. That is true
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The homes are nicer, with “updated” styles and features south of 44 , but I liked the established flora and fauna north of 44 and the convenience of having a lot of choices for shopping and amenities nearby.
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All I know is from a video where they said they have enough land to keep them building for the next 15+ years...

But who knows for sure?
That is 54,000 homes think they have a lot more land than that.
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That is 54,000 homes think they have a lot more land than that.
Hence the "+"...

Oh, and 15 X 3000 homes/year = 75K homes...

Last year was over 4K new homes and they are on track to beat 3K new homes this year...
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There was no threats, people were truly worried the line was drawn in the sand, building was done. Where the rumors started no idea, just info spewing from MLS to buy preowned, before they were gone.

Our VLS, told us trying to get new was probably out of the question, because the wait list for what ever house was up next selling sight unseen. Yes reps were in the dark then.Multiple Strangers we played golf confirmed, each was on list for a house.

Our VLS said no worries if build does stop, houses come on the market everyday here. Someone dies, tee time available and house to sell. That is true
Okay, but that didn't answer my question asking what "scare tactic" did they use that caused the need for the new "lottery" system to buy a new home?

It's obvious that they're not stopping building more homes anytime soon, right?
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That is 54,000 homes think they have a lot more land than that.
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Hence the "+"...

Oh, and 15 X 3000 homes/year = 75K homes...

Last year was over 4K new homes and they are on track to beat 3K new homes this year...
Can someone explain the new math to me? When I was in school 15x3000=45000
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Okay, but that didn't answer my question asking what "scare tactic" did they use that caused the need for the new "lottery" system to buy a new home?

It's obvious that they're not stopping building more homes anytime soon, right?
There wasn’t a scare tactic..just as there wasn’t one during the pandemic when homes were selling before they could take pics.

Supply and demand, those who wanted to live in the new LSL area, because that could be the last square. Brownwood property was already in family, but public did know that.
When we came in 07 SS retail space, was full, KBs was packed with people who spent money on good food, and a great bar, with entertainment.

LSL had was empty, developer owned retail and restaurant, movie theater, although you had to go to SS for any new movies. You didn’t have people (Goldwing nut) flying drones over land that was starting to be developed, to know building wouldn’t stop. Houses took longer in those days, it’s wasn’t the science as todays build. Home were no built in 30 days as they are now. Our first home we bought in May, July first the homes across the street were just being completed. So again less homes on the market, more people looking than available

The developer was advertising heavily on golf tournaments, and golf magazines. A lifestyle package included breakfast at what is now Panera. Dinner at KBs, Palmer, Lopez, 4 rounds of golf at champ of your choosing, tennis, 4 movie tickets, and 2 classes of your choice. All for $285 4 days 3 nights at LSL.

Once people came here, they fell in love with the “lifestyle”. Many wanted to buy while there were houses.

Not at anytime did our rep, who is now over most of all sales reps, pressure us. In fact he called us once gave us his contact number if we wanted to see homes. We choose not to look, with him, stopped at couple open houses. 2 more visits before we finally called him to look at houses. Again no scare tactics, from our rep, just people who didn’t want to miss getting a home here.
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Can someone explain the new math to me? When I was in school 15x3000=45000
I stand by 54,000. Sell 300 homes a month that is 3600 per year. Over 15 years that is 54,000.
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.... The point of this post is that, as far as I’m concerned, south of 44 doesn’t exist.....
This month is my third time renting at TV for a 6-month period, this time I am renting in the newer area opposite the Turnpike. Last year when I rented north of 44, I cut my 6-month rental 2 months short because I felt I was simply meeting the wrong people and I was tired of getting negative vibes from a group of Villagers I kept running into that seemed to always complain about everything, specifically about part-time / rental only Villagers. I personally could not care what they think of me as a “renter”, but their rudeness and self-entitled attitude may offend others.

After reading your post you seem to possess the same rudeness and “self-entitled attitude” as the people I met last year with your comments about living south of 44, did you really have to post “as far as I’m concerned, south of 44 doesn’t exist.” ?

Since you’re a part timer also I am beginning to wonder if some of the comments I heard from the people I met last year about part timers may be justified?

Anyway I have only been here a week and so far its been good, nice people so far so I am GLAD south of 44 does exist!

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I stand by 54,000. Sell 300 homes a month that is 3600 per year. Over 15 years that is 54,000.
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