[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

A Stonecrester with an LSV can legally drive on the streets of TV but could still be prohibited from using the multi-modal paths. It would require some work on the part of the Developer to detect the offenders and issue them a "Trespass Warning" but it could be accomplished if the Developer has the will to do it.

Once warned, the offender could be arrested if there were a repeat violation, The fact that the LSVs are required to have a license tag would make enforcement easier.

Who would issue the �Trespass Warning� a new �Village Home Land Security Department�? One fully trained in police work? To cover the area of the TV would 10 officers be sufficient? How much money will be diverted from my amenity fees to fund this?

What return would I receive for my money?

[Steve & Deanna]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

On my last visit to The Villages where I was renting a home for a month with all Villages privileges I approached the Stonecrest gate in a car and asked to be admitted. The guard was pleasant but refused to allow me to enter the community.

It seems to me that if Villagers are not allowed to enter their truly gated community where the roads are maintained by the residents, Stonecresters should not have access to Villages amenities such as the cart paths; the roads which are public in spite of the gates, certainly, but not the cart paths. If they want access let them drive cars to where they are going. If they are on the cart paths they are trespassing.

We can attest to that. Years back when we were renting, we tried to enter also and the guard was quite adamant about providing us with a salesperson. W explained that we were not buyers but merely wanted t look around....and that's what happened...we were turned around....and guess where we bought? Happy to be in The Villages

[VillageGeek]

My concern is this. If the gate is permitted, what precedent would this set? Would The Villages then have to take down some four board fencing (and how much) to allow other communities outside The Villages golf car access? It blows my mind to think how many 'outside' access points would have to be created throughout The Villages should this gate be permitted. And there are a lot of Villages' neighborhoods backing to non-villages property.......not necessarily thoroughfares designed to carry larger traffic volume (such as Morse, Buena Vista, El Camino Real, etc.) therefore allowing access into our neighborhoods.

Although the roads in The Villages are public, the idea behind putting up barriers between The Villages' property and non-Villages property is to promote the quaint, quiet neighborhood we all can retreat to in order to escape the 'hustle and bustle' of the commercial areas EVERYONE has access to. The idea of the gates is to deter anyone who may have ill intentions AND effectively direct traffic so we don't have people lost all over in here.......thus eliminating unnecessary traffic.

I really don't think a petition is going to amount to anything other than spite between Villages' residents & non-Villages' residents. However, I don't care. My favorite saying: "You gotta pay to play, baby." You want what The Villages offers, ante up.

Thanks for reading my post.

[DonH57]

I feel the discussion about the gate is getting insane.I really don't believe the gate will disappear. All the petitioning in the world of these politicians won't change any thing. I really doubt they would even concern themselves with the manner of the developer protecting private property. This cart path was never a public thruway for automobile use. It's private property. If the developer decided to allow others use of cart paths for a fee it would'nt bother me in the least. I have to pay to use it. So should others.

[DaleMN]

The Villages for Villagers. I say isolationism is the best foreign policy.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by DaleMN

The Villages for Villagers. I say isolationism is the best foreign policy.

May we assume you are referring to the gated community of Stonecrest?

[RVRoadie]

This issue will likely come up with the new Village of Fruitland Park. You may not be aware, but Fruitland Park allows golf carts on their residential roads. I suspect that the City Managers are going to require golf cart access as they go through the permitting process for the new village.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by RVRoadie

This issue will likely come up with the new Village of Fruitland Park. You may not be aware, but Fruitland Park allows golf carts on their residential roads. I suspect that the City Managers are going to require golf cart access as they go through the permitting process for the new village.

I believe, from previous discussions, Mr. Morse said making the cart paths in The Villages public to Fruitland Park would be a deal breaker for the expansion in that area.

[lpkshop]

They can access all our stuff by car so what's the difference ? I don't see the problem

[NoMoSno]

I wonder why carts are allowed access through Mulberry, at the north end.
Carts are crossing 42 into TVs everyday...

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

I wonder why carts are allowed access through Mulberry, at the north end.
Carts are crossing 42 into TVs everyday...

If so, then the crossers are breaking state law in crossing CR42.

[Steve9930]

Lets get the facts straight. Stonecrest is not petitioning to gain access to The Villages. The article is misleading in the fact that what a group in Stonecrest desires is a Golf Cart Crossing from the Doctors office area accross 441/27 to the Hospital area. This is not The Villages property. No one is trying to get Golf Cart access to your beloved villages.

[Steve9930]

Seems as I read all these posts that some people believe that the shops and restaurants are Village property. They do not belong to The Villages, they belong to the developer. They are a public enterprise open to the public.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Lets get the facts straight. Stonecrest is not petitioning to gain access to The Villages. The article is misleading in the fact that what a group in Stonecrest desires is a Golf Cart Crossing from the Doctors office area accross 441/27 to the Hospital area. This is not The Villages property. No one is trying to get Golf Cart access to your beloved villages.

But...........once you cross 441/27 you do have access. Right?

[Steve9930]

[QUOTE=Carl in Tampa;794628]A Stonecrester with an LSV can legally drive on the streets of TV but could still be prohibited from using the multi-modal paths. It would require some work on the part of the Developer to detect the offenders and issue them a "Trespass Warning" but it could be accomplished if the Developer has the will to do it.

Once warned, the offender could be arrested if there were a repeat violation, The fact that the LSVs are required to have a license tag would make enforcement easier.

The Villages has no legal right to make or enforce laws. You cannot do what you suggested. LSVs where owned by a Village resident or an outsider do not and should not be on the Golf Cart Paths. They have been designed for street use. using them on the paths puts others in danger.