[Jaggy]

I am making a public vow to quit reading this thread, It is hurting my brain .

[yabbadu]

Originally Posted by Kahuna32162

And how do those signs help you when someone cuts in front of you to because you were following the rules and they didn't have a clue? This is not a snow bird thing, it happens everyday.

No different than when one cuts you off on any road anywhere!

[Djembe dude]

It is just like the people who have golf carts that go over 20 mph. You can't fix stupid.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

Yes, I'm one of those people!

The circles are a hazard because everyone drives them differently and they are too small in diameter for the purpose they were designed to handle.
Or were they simply put in as eye candy for would-be buyers to say how beautiful they are???
Did you have all these circles where you came from? No! No one did.
You had traffic lights and stop signs.
Were they a problem?
I'm sure not, with perhaps an issue or two here and there which could happen anywhere.

The truth of the matter is that the circles are a nightmare.
They do not control traffic; they only confuse and intimidate most driveers.
No one knows how to drive around them.

So why would stop signs be so terrible here when stop signs are what everyone that lives here is used to and probably what they grew up with their entire life.

Huh?

Have you ever come to a four way stop and no one knows who's turn it is to proceed? It is anxiety producing to say the least. IMHO, the RABs are very safe if you drive them defensively. That is the key. I NEVER allow anyone to drive beside me. I will alter my speed so NO ONE is ever beside me.....EVER. I've never had a problem in the RABs and I'm here during the winter months when it is busiest on the roads.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Christine G

I don't need a taxi thanks, I obey the rules of the road and the laws of the state , thanks very much!

The word is TAX not TAXI. I think you might have misread that. LOL.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bill Tasker

....... He then proceeded to yell he has the right of way “because he lives there.” .......

You can't be serious!!!

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Have you ever come to a four way stop and no one knows who's turn it is to proceed? It is anxiety producing to say the least. IMHO, the RABs are very safe if you drive them defensively. That is the key. I NEVER allow anyone to drive beside me. I will alter my speed so NO ONE is ever beside me.....EVER. I've never had a problem in the RABs and I'm here during the winter months when it is busiest on the roads.

What you are saying is true and correct.
However, I've said it before . . . Not everyone does what you do!
No one drives these circles the same way!
Therein lies the problem!!!

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Have you ever come to a four way stop and no one knows who's turn it is to proceed? It is anxiety producing to say the least. IMHO, the RABs are very safe if you drive them defensively. That is the key. I NEVER allow anyone to drive beside me. I will alter my speed so NO ONE is ever beside me.....EVER. I've never had a problem in the RABs and I'm here during the winter months when it is busiest on the roads.

A 4-way stop sign is a no brainer.
You always yield to the person on the right meaning that if the guy on the right got to the stop first, he goes first.
If you really aren't sure, you let him go first.

Unfortunately, navigating the circles is a whole 'nother story!

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

A 4-way stop sign is a no brainer.
You always yield to the person on the right meaning that if the guy on the right got to the stop first, he goes first.
If you really aren't sure, you let him go first.

Unfortunately, navigating the circles is a whole 'nother story!

I'm aware of the 4 way stop rules but I don't think other people know them sometimes......especially the ones who think it should be two cars go through at a time! LOL.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Have you ever come to a four way stop and no one knows who's turn it is to proceed? It is anxiety producing to say the least. IMHO, the RABs are very safe if you drive them defensively. That is the key. I NEVER allow anyone to drive beside me. I will alter my speed so NO ONE is ever beside me.....EVER. I've never had a problem in the RABs and I'm here during the winter months when it is busiest on the roads.

People not understanding the right of way rules at intersections is a big pet peeve of mine. I can't believe that so many people don't know what to do.

A few weeks ago I stop at a four way. A car to my right had gotten there slightly before me. He sat there looking at me for about ten seconds and then waived me through. As I start to go, he begins to go at the same time. What an idiot.

I see it all the time, the person who has the right of way doesn't understand the rules.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

People not understanding the right of way rules at intersections is a big pet peeve of mine. I can't believe that so many people don't know what to do.

A few weeks ago I stop at a four way. A car to my right had gotten there slightly before me. He sat there looking at me for about ten seconds and then waived me through. As I start to go, he begins to go at the same time. What an idiot.

I see it all the time, the person who has the right of way doesn't understand the rules.

I have a scenerio for you....

The driver at 6:00 is the next one to proceed thru the 4 way stop intersection. My husband seems to feel the driver at 12:00 should go at the same time if both are proceeding straight through the intersection (even though it is not 12:00's turn to go). I don't know if I'm on board with that one. I know this moves the traffic along quicker but I'm not sure if this is correct.

[PennBF]

I really wondered what this post was all about until I drove home from Spanish Springs to Lake Sumter. In 2 cases golf carts cut me off (I was driving a car).They made turns and never looked. At one 4 way stop the cart just went through without looking or stopping. I know in a lot of cases the cars are critized but I will be more careful in the blame game after watching the complete disregard for safety by these carts. Why do you think people act this way in carts?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I have a scenerio for you....

The driver at 6:00 is the next one to proceed thru the 4 way stop intersection. My husband seems to feel the driver at 12:00 should go at the same time if both are proceeding straight through the intersection (even though it is not 12:00's turn to go). I don't know if I'm on board with that one. I know this moves the traffic along quicker but I'm not sure if this is correct.

Why not if they are both going straight. It doesn't cause any danger to anyone. It's not unsafe and will indeed move traffic along a bit faster.

Sometimes I think that some people look for problems where there aren't any. I often hear about people changing lanes in intersections. I see people do it, but I've never seen anyone do it when there were other cars around them. In that case, so what? They didn't harm anyone, nor did they endanger anyone. I was with a friend in my car who would see things like and that and say, "Look at that. People here are terrible drivers." We were 100 yards behind the guy and there wasn't another car anywhere.

What bothers me is that when I'm approaching an intersection someone makes a left hand turn cutting off the corner and coming on to my side of the road. I've almost been hit several times by people doing that.

If a driver is aware of what's going on around him and changes lanes or doesn't come to a full, complete stop when there are no other cars in the area, to me, it's no big deal. Most people do it. A few complain about it.

[biker1]

"cutting off the corner" on a left hand turn is a real problem for cyclists - I have had several close calls.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Why not if they are both going straight. It doesn't cause any danger to anyone. It's not unsafe and will indeed move traffic along a bit faster.

Sometimes I think that some people look for problems where there aren't any. I often hear about people changing lanes in intersections. I see people do it, but I've never seen anyone do it when there were other cars around them. In that case, so what? They didn't harm anyone, nor did they endanger anyone. I was with a friend in my car who would see things like and that and say, "Look at that. People here are terrible drivers." We were 100 yards behind the guy and there wasn't another car anywhere.

What bothers me is that when I'm approaching an intersection someone makes a left hand turn cutting off the corner and coming on to my side of the road. I've almost been hit several times by people doing that.

If a driver is aware of what's going on around him and changes lanes or doesn't come to a full, complete stop when there are no other cars in the area, to me, it's no big deal. Most people do it. A few complain about it.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Why not if they are both going straight. It doesn't cause any danger to anyone. It's not unsafe and will indeed move traffic along a bit faster.

Sometimes I think that some people look for problems where there aren't any. I often hear about people changing lanes in intersections. I see people do it, but I've never seen anyone do it when there were other cars around them. In that case, so what? They didn't harm anyone, nor did they endanger anyone. I was with a friend in my car who would see things like and that and say, "Look at that. People here are terrible drivers." We were 100 yards behind the guy and there wasn't another car anywhere.

What bothers me is that when I'm approaching an intersection someone makes a left hand turn cutting off the corner and coming on to my side of the road. I've almost been hit several times by people doing that.

If a driver is aware of what's going on around him and changes lanes or doesn't come to a full, complete stop when there are no other cars in the area, to me, it's no big deal. Most people do it. A few complain about it.

This left hand cut off the corner happens all the time in my area, someone comes off a major through road and just swings across the intersection. My other half is very unpleasant about this - if nothing is behind him he sits at the intersection and MAKES the approaching car or (in most cases) golf cart straighten up and go around him in a correct turn - usually the golf cart will be on two wheels by then. He then gets the finger which he finds very amusing. You can put a dent in this if you pull to the very center of the lane and come to a stop at the intersection forcing people to enter the road correctly.