[FLBuckeyeIII]

Originally Posted by Ooper

FLBuckeye, you obviously don't live here yet... let me explain... You have to drive golf carts on roads in order to get to the multimodal trails, golf courses, restaurants, etc. There are only a few houses in TV that have direct access to golf cart trails without going in the road, and these are usually thru their backyards.

Ooper, I live 2 minutes away from the Villages and have been for over 10 years so "obviously" I know a thing or two... There is NO reason why a golf cart should be on the road if there is a golf cat path right along the side of it, via the lake sumter landing bridge.... I understand about crossing certain roads and such, there is NO reason why a golf cart should be on the same road as 45mph. traffic when there is an accessible golf cart path.... PERIOD.....

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by FLBuckeyeIII

Ooper, I live 2 minutes away from the Villages and have been for over 10 years so "obviously" I know a thing or two... There is NO reason why a golf cart should be on the road if there is a golf cat path right along the side of it, via the lake sumter landing bridge.... I understand about crossing certain roads and such, there is NO reason why a golf cart should be on the same road as 45mph. traffic when there is an accessible golf cart path.... PERIOD.....

HEY no need to shout!
The speed limit on the Lake Sumter landing bridge is 35 MPH.

[Ooper]

Tsk-Tsk, I agree... no need to shout FLBuckeye, did you have a bad day? If you know a thing or two, you know that 99.9% of the residents here have to travel on a road the second they leave their house. If they don't, they can't go anywhere, why have a cart in the first place then??? I agree, the carts shouldn't use 45 mph roads, besides IT IS against the law. And you are right, they should use accessible cart paths, but they have to be able to get their carts to them. How would you suggest they do that if they don't drive in a road??? And BTW, I wasn't trying to be smart, there are a lot of people who have never been to TV on these forums, and judging by your question, I assumed you were one of these. Now you know 3 things!

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by FLBuckeyeIII

Why are there golf carts on the ROAD anyways??? Street legal or not!!!

There is something much, much worse than golf carts on the road.

And that is cars on the golf cart paths. I saw another car on the golf cart path north of Parr drive heading toward the underground (Belvedere) tunnel.

That is a dangerous driving mistake .. I just don't understand how it can happen. The car had somehow squeezed by the divider post on the cart path .. driving on the grass I guess. There was a lady who had jumped out of her golf cart and was frantically trying to wave the car backward.

[GMONEY]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

HEY no need to shout!
The speed limit on the Lake Sumter landing bridge is 35 MPH.

Golf cart must use the cart path unless it is street legal then it is a LSV. Low Speed Vehicle and can travel on roads 35 or less. But the speed on the cart path on morse on the bridge I believe is 10mph...

[chacam]

I think that the path over the bridge is part of the multi modal system and as such, the SCSO has no jurisdiction to write citations for speed. The path isn't a public road. Just my opinion.

But, I think, where the SCSO does have jurisdiction, they don't do a very good job. They could station a deputy on Southern Trace or Oak Forest or Belvedere for example and the speeders could pay that deputy's salary and have some left over. According to Lt Wolfe, out of 338 citations issued in Dec & Jan, only 19 of those were issued to golf carts, and probably most of those were for running stop signs. SCSO and Daily Sun talk about cart speed often but it isn't enforced like it should be.

Originally Posted by chacam

I think that the path over the bridge is part of the multi modal system and as such, the SCSO has no jurisdiction to write citations for speed. The path isn't a public road. Just my opinion.

But, I think, where the SCSO does have jurisdiction, they don't do a very good job. They could station a deputy on Southern Trace or Oak Forest or Belvedere for example and the speeders could pay that deputy's salary and have some left over. According to Lt Wolfe, out of 338 citations issued in Dec & Jan, only 19 of those were issued to golf carts, and probably most of those were for running stop signs. SCSO and Daily Sun talk about cart speed often but it isn't enforced like it should be.

It could even be in the municipality of Lady Lake. I wonder what these city ordinance say about speeding golf carts??

[Bryan]

The "rules" within TV as obtained from the VHA brochure are as follows:

Golf carts may not cross over or drive on Highway 27/441, CR 466, CR 466A, Griffin Avenue or any other road with a posted speed limit of 35 mph or higher. LSV can be operated on a road whose speed limit is 35 mph or less. A golf cart can be operated on a state road that has been designated
and marked for golf cart use.

Golf carts must use the transportation multi-modal trails adjacent to El Camino Real, Buena Vista Boulevard, Morse Boulevard and CR 466 & CR466A. These roadways can only be crossed in a golf cart by using the marked tunnels. The only exceptions are that golf carts can cross El Camino Real at the traffic light between Enrique Drive and Botello Avenue. In addition, while golf carts are not permitted to travel on Rainey Trail (CR 472) they are permitted to cross between Lynnhaven and Miona Shores Drive. LSV are permitted to travel on Rainey Trail since the speed limit is 35 mph.

On streets within The Villages, with a posted speed limit of 30 mph or less, golf carts should be driven in the marked diamond lanes or along the right-hand edge of the street if there is no marked lane.

[Ooper]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

There is something much, much worse than golf carts on the road.

And that is cars on the golf cart paths. I saw another car on the golf cart path north of Parr drive heading toward the underground (Belvedere) tunnel.

That is a dangerous driving mistake .. I just don't understand how it can happen. The car had somehow squeezed by the divider post on the cart path .. driving on the grass I guess. There was a lady who had jumped out of her golf cart and was frantically trying to wave the car backward.

I also saw a car trying to access the Morse Circle from the doctors' parking lot on the NE corner of the circle by squeezing between the divider post and the shrubbery along side the path. Another person had flagged her down and was trying to help her in making a u-turn on the cart path to go back the way she came. She was doing a number on the grass! Where are these people's heads???

[jww7931]

If a Street Legal cart drives on a multi modal lane, or diamond lane on a village street, is it legal for them to exceed 20 MPH? I was in my golf cart behind a Street Legal cart today on Belvedere in the diamond lane. This street Legal cart was going much faster than me and almost keeping up with the vehicular traffic to it's left. Is that legal?

[Whatever]

I believe that street legal carts are permitted to cross over 466 at Morse Blvd. and on 441 to get from Orange Blossom to Spanish Springs. I would be corrected if someone has different info.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by jww7931

If a Street Legal cart drives on a multi modal lane, or diamond lane on a village street, is it legal for them to exceed 20 MPH? I was in my golf cart behind a Street Legal cart today on Belvedere in the diamond lane. This street Legal cart was going much faster than me and almost keeping up with the vehicular traffic to it's left. Is that legal?

A street legal cart can drive on any street (including Belvedere) that has a speed limit of 35 MPH or less. A street legal cart can drive up to 25MPH. They can cross CR 466, but not drive on that road.

[Talk Host]

I personally believe that no registered vehicles should be allowed on he cart paths. Their speeds are considerably higher than stock golf carts, bicycles, walkers and runners. People who normally use the cart paths correctly expect they will only encounter lower speed vehicles. To suddenly be surprised by a 25 or 35 MPH cart or 45 mph motorcycle or motor scooter is an unexpected danger.

[chacam]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I personally believe that no registered vehicles should be allowed on he cart paths. Their speeds are considerably higher than stock golf carts, bicycles, walkers and runners. People who normally use the cart paths correctly expect they will only encounter lower speed vehicles. To suddenly be surprised by a 25 or 35 MPH cart or 45 mph motorcycle or motor scooter is an unexpected danger.

[golfergal]

street legal golf carts have two speeds, one which goes up to 25-26 MPH (not 30-35 as i've seen some posts report) for street use. the other speed is like any other golf cart, 19-20 MPH. why would you deny a street legal cart, properly traveling at 17-20 MPH, from cart paths? i have been passed at 19 MPH by many carts (mostly gas, which cannot be street legal) where the owner has obviously disabled the governor. the carts that i see speeding along the paths are generally NOT street legal. any cart, street legal or not, where the governor is not allowed to do its job seems to be the real issue here.