[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by gerryann

But that doesn't help the person that needs it NOW. The person needing to grab the AED now has to find a person with the key. ......doesn't make sense to me that they are locked. They need to be used instantly. ( I'm not talking about this particular case, although it should have been in someone's hands in case he needed it)

They are locked up because they are very expensive pieces of equipment and as we are all aware there are some who like to come into TV and take things from our homes, cars and carts that do not belong to them. First responders with keys are alerted when a 911 call is placed.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by rhood

I am told that starters/ambassadors are forbidden to render any kind of medical aid. Even if the starter or ambassador is a retired MD. Can any course worker verify that?

Now who told you that?

[mulligan]

He is correct. You may consider this first hand knowledge.

[Bogie Shooter]

Here is the front page article from today's March 30, Daily Sun.
There is a lot of information that some of the uniformed posters will benefit by reading.


Villages

[al & jane]

If you use an AED on a person with a pulse you could kill them. It should only be used when there is no heartbeat.

[cquick]

Originally Posted by Abster

Not to change the subject BUT I hate going to the square. I push my husband in a wheelchair. There are many times we are heading one direction and have to do a U turn because there is no handicap access...no way onto or off sidewalks. Are you kidding me? In a village full of old people? This community is this old and these serious problems have never been addressed? .

yes, there are several areas from the parking lots to the sidewalks that have no curb cut outs.....I understand how this person feels, been there for sure!

Yes, there are ramps at the corners of the blocks, but she might be talking about other places, and I'm not sure which square she means. Pushing a wheelchair can be frustrating sometimes.

[cquick]

Originally Posted by al & jane

If you use an AED on a person with a pulse you could kill them. It should only be used when there is no heartbeat.

yes, that's true, and she did say he was breathing. so probably the AED wasn't necessary.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by cquick

yes, that's true, and she did say he was breathing. so probably the AED wasn't necessary.

The AED vest device will not work if a pulse is present. The machine detects it on it's own.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Here is the front page article from today's March 30, Daily Sun.
There is a lot of information that some of the uniformed posters will benefit by reading.


Villages

from the above article...regarding compression only CPR...
guote:
In another shift about two and a half years ago, District Public Safety adopted a change from traditional CPR, which includes airway ventilation and mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, to chest compression-only CPR with the use of automated external defibrillators, or AEDs.

The compression-only approach not only brought a significant increase in survival rates, Geeslin said, but also encourages more residents to dive into CPR training. People are more willing to give chest compressions than to use the mouth-to-mouth method, he said.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by al & jane

If you use an AED on a person with a pulse you could kill them. It should only be used when there is no heartbeat.

A little research...here's a university based answer.
Frequently Asked Questions About AED's, Automated External Defibrillators - Learn AED

quote: Can the AED accidentally shock someone who doesn�t need a shock?

Not likely. The AED is designed to only shock VF. It will not shock any other heart rhythm. Nevertheless, AEDs are not perfect and in 1% of cases it may shock a rhythm other than VF. That�s why it should only be attached to a person who is unconscious and has collapsed.

[skip0358]

Originally Posted by DDoug

Dont know if anyone said this but what if the starters are not trained and if they miss use the AED they could possibly kill someone. Like one post never used it on a person that had a pulse. Everyone is quick to blame and be honest you have to be careful. Even pick some one up if they just fall could make a minor injury worse . Personally if I cant get up on my uwn call 911 and leave me on the ground unless of course there is immediate danger. Old saying Be careful what you wish for.

FYI an AED WILL NOT a person unless a shock is needed. It does a patient assessment and decides and tells you what needs to be done period.