[Velvet]

I’m still not happy about seeing these crosses in public in residential settings. I don’t want to live in a cemetery! (yet) And I am a Bible College educated Christian.

But… whatever the majority decides, I will accept.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Garywt

Most crosses are for lost loved ones. They are not to be considered lawn ornaments and are allowed as of last year.

Unless you buried your loved one in that spot, it's not for loved ones. Most of them are to let everyone know they're christian. Nothing more or less.

Personally, I feel that anyone who has to tell me they're christian, in order for me to know they're christian, aren't being very good christians.

A good christian doesn't need to advertise it. They just ARE.

[Garywt]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Unless you buried your loved one in that spot, it's not for loved ones. Most of them are to let everyone know they're christian. Nothing more or less.

Personally, I feel that anyone who has to tell me they're christian, in order for me to know they're christian, aren't being very good christians.

A good christian doesn't need to advertise it. They just ARE.

The people I have talked to the cross is because they lost their spouse. Not most likely not everyone but my neighbor for one lost her husband, downsized her house and put a small cross out. She was told to relocate it which she did but now has it out front because the rules have changed.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Unless you buried your loved one in that spot, it's not for loved ones. Most of them are to let everyone know they're christian. Nothing more or less.

Personally, I feel that anyone who has to tell me they're christian, in order for me to know they're christian, aren't being very good christians.

A good Christian doesn't need to advertise it. They just ARE.

I was raised Southern Baptist, and I was "taught" that a "good Christian did not advertise their religion, instead, they demonstrated it in their daily lives.

(Edited: But, what do I know, I turned into an atheist...)

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I’m still not happy about seeing these crosses in public in residential settings. I don’t want to live in a cemetery! (yet) And I am a Bible College educated Christian.

But… whatever the majority decides, I will accept.

I agree. Those are the rules.

We aren't allowed to have unapproved ornaments of any kind and they can be challenged. That is what the deed restrictions say. I don't look at it as anyone not liking or liking your faith.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I’m still not happy about seeing these crosses in public in residential settings. I don’t want to live in a cemetery! (yet) And I am a Bible College educated Christian.

But… whatever the majority decides, I will accept.

A Catholic gave me a white cross and I put it in my yard. I am not Catholic but I like the cross and it is allowed (apparently) in my neighborhood. I suppose I should be sensitive to those that are "not happy" about my having a cross displayed, but I cannot be sensitive to the hurt feelings of ALL humanity. By the way, more of my neighbors have crosses than those that do not. As for those that insist that it is not proper to announce one's faith:
Mark 16:15-16 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Byte1

A Catholic gave me a white cross and I put it in my yard. I am not Catholic but I like the cross and it is allowed (apparently) in my neighborhood. I suppose I should be sensitive to those that are "not happy" about my having a cross displayed, but I cannot be sensitive to the hurt feelings of ALL humanity. By the way, more of my neighbors have crosses than those that do not. As for those that insist that it is not proper to announce one's faith:
Mark 16:15-16 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

It isn't the issue that it is a cross. It is the issue that it is a lawn ornament. It isn't allowed unless it is placed under the eaves of your home.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It isn't the issue that it is a cross. It is the issue that it is a lawn ornament. It isn't allowed unless it is placed under the eaves of your home.

Apparently, it IS allowed in certain sections. ALL rules are flexible in this country, as well as the punishment for ALL laws. Time for folks to be a bit more "tolerant" in their old age, isn't it?

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Apparently, it IS allowed in certain sections. ALL rules are flexible in this country, as well as the punishment for ALL laws. Time for folks to be a bit more "tolerant" in their old age, isn't it?

Deed restrictions are not flexible, they are permanent. I don't understand why those with crosses don't just put them on their front door, problem solved.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Deed restrictions are not flexible, they are permanent. I don't understand why those with crosses don't just put them on their front door, problem solved.

Yep, I don't get it either. Who gets to decide which deed violations are acceptable and which aren't? But I still don't agree with old biddies with clipboards going to other than their own neighborhood and reporting 140 violations/week

[Decadeofdave]

They just called me last week to remove my sand hill cranes. Anonymous person called. I thought I was grandfathered in because the grandfather I bought the house from had them in the front yard for 15 years LOL, I got busted.

[PennBF]

For those who have quoted the Bible to support the "Cross in the Yard" may want to refer to Mathew 6:5-6 in which it states:
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the
synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have
received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and
pray to your father who is unseen" Mathew 6:5-6 :
Does this actually point to those who yell their Christian belief from their yards which relates to street corners rather then quietly in a closed room?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Apparently, it IS allowed in certain sections. ALL rules are flexible in this country, as well as the punishment for ALL laws. Time for folks to be a bit more "tolerant" in their old age, isn't it?

We moved to an area with deed restrictions on purpose. Has NOTHING to do with goodness, religion, kindness, punishment but rather trying to keep rampant bad taste from overtaking the area where we live. NO I do not think that Christian symbols are bad taste at all.

I just LIKE and CHOOSE places that have deed restrictions and have done so for years. It makes the whole area a better and more lovely place to live and protects your financial investment in your home.

[Chellybean]

People believe the crosses are covered under the first amendment, freedom of speech which IMHO I believe they are. Federal and State law Preempts anything you signed and can not be enforced. A lot of deed restriction are not legal and Preempted by state and Federal law, some example, Clotheslines, outdoor Antenna's etc... I am sure there will be a lot of disagreement about this which I will not debate.
Sometimes peoples principles are more important and not about Christianity, if its not on your property mind your own business!

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

People believe the crosses are covered under the first amendment, freedom of speech which IMHO I believe they are. Federal and State law Preempts anything you signed and can not be enforced. A lot of deed restriction are not legal and Preempted by state and Federal law, some example, Clotheslines, outdoor Antenna's etc... I am sure there will be a lot of disagreement about this which I will not debate.
Sometimes peoples principles are more important and not about Christianity, if its not on your property mind your own business!

Visible crosses are not being restricted, it is the placement of them that is restricted, you can have one in your window or on the outside of your front door, you just can have them in your lawn or landscape area if the restriction is on your deed therefore no restriction of free speech.