Thinking outside the box - accelerating back to normal

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Old 04-18-2020, 07:27 AM
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Some people don’t understand sarcasm when they see it. Let’s spell it out. Go out and open everyone up to a second round of this terrible disease . They go home and infect their family and friends while they are waiting for the results of the COVID test. Either they die or watch a family member do so because there are entire families being wiped out by this. The alternative is we wait as long as we need to for the numbers to diminish and everyone lives. I choose option 2 as I know people who have lost several family members due to this horrible disease! I hate being couped up alone but I’d rather live and have my family live than go outside into the world. Not really a choice as I see it
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:29 AM
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I understand there is a lot of frustration at staying at home, and some wonder is it worth it? i.e. is the cure worse than the disease, and is it worth giving up our civil liberties?

Here's my idea on making everyone happy. If I were President I would propose the following starting May 1st -

1. People who are compromised or don't feel they wish to play Russian roulette - stay at home like you have been doing already. They will need to stock up on TP, and keep watching Netflix etc. for the entire month of May.

2. For the others who do not fear the virus because they are young, healthy, or just feel immune to it all - we setup Covid-19 stations and beginning May 1st they line up to get their dose of infection. They need to be infected because by May 31st, they will get a card that says they are now immune and can now do whatever they want from that point on - go to parks, go to restaurants and bars (populated with like minded people), get back to work and even visit beaches - they will have all their freedoms back because they can not spread anything. It will be a small price to pay (1% or 2% deaths), but that is what Darwinism is all about. And if they really are strong, there's nothing to worry about.


Now the "participants" have to get infected beginning May 1st because we need to know for certain by May 31st that they had it and survived with immunity. After that they can either enjoy life, or do useful community service for the rest of the people still stuck at home by doing gardening and home delivery of groceries and restaurant orders. Maybe we pay them people $600 per week until they discover a vaccine for everyone else. The big plus is that the folk in 2. will have contributed to herd immunity and they will forever go down as heroes. (statues in every park?) For people in group 1., they will wait a little longer for the vaccine and with so many of the herd now "neutralized" they will not need to worry so much about making the occasional trip outside.

What do you think? Who's ready to start lining up for their dose of Covid-19 beginning May 1st?

I think this solves all the problems ... that's what all this walking has done to me. Given me time to solve the worlds problems.
I am obviously in the minority here, but I thought your post was hilarious. Great sense of humor Skarra, and your use of sarcasm was right on, but lost on the majority.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:07 AM
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I like your thinking! And I choose group 1 with you! I'd like to live and don't wanna take any chances with my life!
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Exactly which civil rights have you given up? Just answer that one question.
Yes, that’s my question too to those obsessed with ‘civil liberties.’ In the wake of COVID-19–dealing with a virus that is unprecedented—please explain in what ways your ‘civil liberties’ have been trammeled on (or worse?)

I know I cannot let my self-will run riot, which I would be doing if I were to reject the best available medical suggestions. People are DYING from this virus; I suspect as they lay dying that their ‘civil liberties’were far from their minds....
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Go back to walking.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:29 AM
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That is not true. Most of us are out enjoying our life.

As we were out and about today, we saw a lot of people playing golf, going for walks, sitting with others and socializing, and waiting in front of Paesano's for their food.

Everyone we saw looked happy and they were keeping their distance from others
i saw you there!! everyone was happy & just enjoyed talking to one another
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I love your satire. Unfortunately, some did not get it.
thats how you can tell who has a sense of humor, lol
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I'm in group 2. I agree with all you have said.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:35 AM
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I simply don't understand how a single person who read this post did not get that it was written 100% tongue-in-cheek. Come on, people.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:38 AM
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The proposal is crazy, but don't you think its the way it just might happen.
1. Those who feel they have compromising medical conditions, which gives them a higher death percentage will continue to wear masks, believe in "social distancing", stay home and do what they can to protect themselves.
2. Then there are those who feel they will roll the dice and will wear masks and gloves for the first week, shed the gloves the second week, shed the mask the third week, and then since they believe they are invincible just take their chances.
3.Those who get a negative result on the test think they are in good shape, yeah, good shape to be positive the next time they test.
4. A positive test is good (unless you die) since you may be immune to the virus strain you previously had. However only that strain.
5.Herd immunity is good. Visualize the thousands of wildebeest crossing the river, and the crocodiles going "yumm!" . Herd immunity is good as long as you are not one of the appetizers.
6. Testing is good, however it only indicates your condition at the time of the test, nothing that might happen later that same day if you test negative, and it also appears that some can catch it again, even it tested positive.

Medical science is the real answer, hopefully they will develop a medicine to overcome the virus once you have it. It appears there are several being tested currently. Hospitals are gaining knowledge as to how to treat infected individuals, and if we do not overwhelm the system (flatten the curve) survival is greatly increased. Hopefully a vaccine if forthcoming, however from the news that is many months off from being available.

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You don’t need a medical degree to espouse common sense. How many degrees do the modelers of those doom and gloom projections, foreseeing 2 million + dead, have? Deaths now projected at no more than a common flu season. The numbers don’t add up, so it’s becoming increasing difficult to maintain faith in models and projections, and forestall my civil liberties based on fallacies.
Maybe that is because the models and predictions led us into taken appropriate steps to prevent what the models predicted.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:58 AM
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Whether or not people gain immunity once they get this virus is open for debate. I read an article this morning that said that it's been discovered that some people that have had the virus and got through it have contracted it again.
I don't understand where this idea of once you get it, you are immune comes from. If you get the influenza that comes around every year, you are not immune from getting it again.
The reason that the virus has been so slow to spread in The Villages is that we have been very good at practicing social distancing and following other recommended protocols. I fear that if we followed the advice of the OP, the virus would begin to spread like wildfire.
Opening up everything now would be akin to saying, "The parachute has slowed out decent, so we can close it now."
I know that some people think that this is some kind of conspiracy or overkill by the government. But when you have 50 governors across the country and 210 leaders of countries across the globe doing the same things, it's pretty difficult to make the case that there is some kind of government conspiracy going on here.
It will be a long time, much longer than is being suggested, that everything will open again. And when we do get back to "normal" it will be a much different "normal". I believe that a lot of the protocols in place now will continue on a permanent basis. Stores will limit the number of people allowed inside at a time. People will still be staying six feet apart. Masks will become the norm.
Just as the TSA and confiscating small penknives at the Eiffel Tower have become a normal part of our lives, many of the protocols that we are now following will be normal.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:59 AM
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Give the guy a break. It's just his opinion, we like rear ends
WE ALL HAVE ONE. lighten up, enjoy life.
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Old 04-18-2020, 09:06 AM
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Default You will never be safe until everyone can wear a N95 mask when in public

Until the powers to be make it mandatory to wear face protection ( at the very least home made) the individuals that show no symptoms will continue to spread the disease. The research indicates that the onset of the disease rapidly spread because we were told it would not benefit us to wear a mask which was a lie. The government realized that there was no way to supply the public with N95 mask because China was using them up so fast. The results of this problem caused a rapid spread of the disease by individuals showing no symptoms. By now we needed all the mask for our hospitals, too little too late. The good news is that next time everyone will have a supply on hand and at the same time keep social distances.
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