[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

...If someone were truly concerned about the safety of those at the squares, and were unbiased without an agenda...they would be a strong advocate of ceasing to serve strong, cheap, 2 for 1 alcoholic beverages...

What you call an "agenda", others call running a business in a free society.

You really want somebody else to be responsible for your behavior and not you? Give...me...a...break.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

After the events in Europe, IMHO our town squares should have bollards or heavy planters to prevent vehicles from entering the center of the squares where people dance , etc

Also, protective bollards should be erected to protect the entrances and box offices of the theaters where people line up to purchase tickets

We are very, very vulnerable-remember a terror attack happened in Orlando- 1 hour away

Have you priced bollards? Especially the ones embedded in the ground to resist a moving vehicle?

$500 to $1,500 EACH is not unusual. And, for vehicle protection they must be spaced so close together that a vehicle cannot drive between them.

Now, plan positioning them for each approach to a Town Square. But wait! That's not enough. The last few attacks in Europe have involved vehicles driving down the pedestrian sidewalk for one or two blocks. Bollards along all the sidewalks around and approaching the squares? And, at the movie theaters.

Starting to see the dollar signs mount up?

How much increase are you willing to see added to your amenities fees to pay for all this? Or perhaps it could be paid for by a new bond assessment on every house in The Villages.

Not to mention the unsightly appearance of bollard everywhere.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Wiotte

This thread is ridiculous. Paranoia is not normal, nor are people that conceal carry. Absolutely nuts.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

How much increase are you willing to see added to your amenities fees to pay for all this? Or perhaps it could be paid for by a new bond assessment on every house in The Villages. Not to mention the unsightly appearance of bollard everywhere.

I think there is a very small percentage of paranoid people who see fear everywhere.
I don't think the rest of us are willing to build barricades to protect ourselves against something that has a minuscule chance of happening. IMHO, we are better off spending our money on sinkhole insurance (and sinkholes rarely happen).

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I think there is a very small percentage of paranoid people who see fear everywhere.
I don't think the rest of us are willing to build barricades to protect ourselves against something that has a minuscule chance of happening. We are better off spending our money on sinkhole insurance.

Scary stuff, I'm going to bed now but before I do I'll check under it for monsters.


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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Have you priced bollards? Especially the ones embedded in the ground to resist a moving vehicle?

$500 to $1,500 EACH is not unusual. And, for vehicle protection they must be spaced so close together that a vehicle cannot drive between them.

Now, plan positioning them for each approach to a Town Square. But wait! That's not enough. The last few attacks in Europe have involved vehicles driving down the pedestrian sidewalk for one or two blocks. Bollards along all the sidewalks around and approaching the squares? And, at the movie theaters.

Starting to see the dollar signs mount up?

How much increase are you willing to see added to your amenities fees to pay for all this? Or perhaps it could be paid for by a new bond assessment on every house in The Villages.

Not to mention the unsightly appearance of bollard everywhere.

Like your practical approach. I like having the retired armed cops around myself as long as they are still proficient in the use of firearms. They might be able to neutralize various threats to the Villages' squares. And the police are not far usually from events on the Squares and they could throw in some undercover people as well.

[biker1]

I suspect the more important issue is that barriers would not meet the Developer's marketing narrative, which is aimed at selling homes and attracting people to the businesses at the squares.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Have you priced bollards? Especially the ones embedded in the ground to resist a moving vehicle?

$500 to $1,500 EACH is not unusual. And, for vehicle protection they must be spaced so close together that a vehicle cannot drive between them.

Now, plan positioning them for each approach to a Town Square. But wait! That's not enough. The last few attacks in Europe have involved vehicles driving down the pedestrian sidewalk for one or two blocks. Bollards along all the sidewalks around and approaching the squares? And, at the movie theaters.

Starting to see the dollar signs mount up?

How much increase are you willing to see added to your amenities fees to pay for all this? Or perhaps it could be paid for by a new bond assessment on every house in The Villages.

Not to mention the unsightly appearance of bollard everywhere.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by biker1

I suspect the more important issue is that barriers would not meet the Developer's marketing narrative, which is aimed at selling homes and attracting people to the businesses at the squares.

How about more statues?

Maybe they could put up more cows, horses and cowboys in Brownwood; Spanish ladies and the beaus in Spanish Springs along with more Morse people likenesses; and some alligator facsimiles along with 19th century FL people. Love to see what the magician who tossed the card into the ceiling at the Old Mill Playhouse looked like.

[biker1]

Barriers might be fine in front of the White House but erecting barriers in the Squares that suggests there is a concern about terrorism is inconsistent with selling homes. Just sayin ...

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

How about more statues?

Maybe they could put up more cows, horses and cowboys in Brownwood; Spanish ladies and the beaus in Spanish Springs along with more Morse people likenesses; and some alligator facsimiles along with 19th century FL people. Love to see what the magician who tossed the card into the ceiling at the Old Mill Playhouse looked like.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The statistics are overwhelming.

If someone were truly concerned about the safety of those at the squares, and were unbiased without an agenda...they would be a strong advocate of ceasing to serve strong, cheap, 2 for 1 alcoholic beverages.

Especially given that a large % of those drinking, will be getting in an automobile/golf cart...soon after consuming said drinks.

A double call brand at happy hour is six bucks. Nicely sized and a good pour, but not cheap considering you are ordering it at a stand up kiosk.

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[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by biker1

Barriers might be fine in front of the White House but erecting barriers in the Squares that suggests there is a concern about terrorism is inconsistent with selling homes. Just sayin ...

Statues of various Morses and people from the fictional history of each Square would probably sell more homes especially if they go with the themes of the Squares.

Those horns on the steer look rather dangerous though. You do not want sharp horns around drunken dancers.

[biker1]

The dangerous steer are on the edge of Brownwood down by 44. This is pretty far from where the drunken dancers are dancing. I think they are reasonably safe but we might want to ask the Developer to consider grinding down the points on those horns ;-). Tripping over the dog may also be an issue.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Statues of various Morses and people from the fictional history of each Square would probably sell more homes especially if they go with the themes of the Squares.

Those horns on the steer look rather dangerous though. You do not want sharp horns around drunken dancers.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by biker1

The dangerous steer are on the edge of Brownwood down by 44. This is pretty far from where the drunken dancers are dancing. I think they are reasonably safe but we might want to ask the Developer to consider grinding down the points on those horns ;-). Tripping over the dog may also be an issue.

I remember thinking the fins on my '59 Chevy were a hazard. [emoji6]

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[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Those horns on the steer look rather dangerous though. You do not want sharp horns around drunken dancers.

I know you're being funny.
But if drunks are dancing out by the steers, they should worry more about traffic than sharp horns.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I know you're being funny.
But if drunks are dancing out by the steers, they should worry more about traffic than sharp horns.

Actually, I was talking about my modest proposal to put in statues on the three Squares to act as barriers for cars and trucks. Steers could be used on Paddock Square but without the horns you see near 44.

They could probably get a grant from the State for such art work. Especially if the art work also works as a barrier to traffic. Someone hitting the gas rather than the brakes is more likely IMHO than a terrorist attack. Or a mentally ill person using a vehicle as a weapon might happen here in the Villages.

They could put some statues of line dancers too. And maybe a few of the well known DJs at the Squares.

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

Have you priced bollards? Especially the ones embedded in the ground to resist a moving vehicle?

$500 to $1,500 EACH is not unusual. And, for vehicle protection they must be spaced so close together that a vehicle cannot drive between them.

Now, plan positioning them for each approach to a Town Square. But wait! That's not enough. The last few attacks in Europe have involved vehicles driving down the pedestrian sidewalk for one or two blocks. Bollards along all the sidewalks around and approaching the squares? And, at the movie theaters.

Starting to see the dollar signs mount up?

How much increase are you willing to see added to your amenities fees to pay for all this? Or perhaps it could be paid for by a new bond assessment on every house in The Villages.

Not to mention the unsightly appearance of bollard everywhere.

I believe the person with the idea would be paying the entire tab for the upgrade.