[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by J1ceasar

Please please please get off your soapbox how this is such a terrible place and you can't stand the people who are writing such garbage if you don't like something skip it and get over it everyone has a valid opinion except when you don't like it? This is not church this is not school people are allowed to have their opinions and if they want to say it in a nasty way to emphasize their opinions let them God gave you a brain to decide to skip someone or mute them or not read the opinions. Your viewpoints are exactly what gets this country in problems too many people on both sides going down and trying to take over something just because they can you don't like it start your own blog

Except, being nasty is against the rules of this forum. You can say nasty things all you like, in the privacy of your own home. When you start targeting people and saying nasty things to them on a public forum where ANYONE can see what you're saying, you become subject to the forum's rules. If you have a problem with restriction of what you say, then start your own forum, and invite people to say whatever they want on it, without restriction.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I tend to agree, generally speaking. But when it comes to romance on a drama TV show, if you want the characters to be *believable* you need to allow for the possibility that they might have some expression of affection at some point in a scene or two.

Roy Roger never lip-locked Dale Evans, but when the sun went down.........you knew the spurs came off (well, at least some of the time).

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I tend to agree, generally speaking. But when it comes to romance on a drama TV show, if you want the characters to be *believable* you need to allow for the possibility that they might have some expression of affection at some point in a scene or two.

Even in comedies it happens. It even happened in Star Wars.

So my point stands: if you can gloss over those scenes on TV or in movies when one certain demographic does it, then you should be okay glossing over the same scenes when a different demographic does it. If one set makes you uncomfortable and the other set doesn't, then the hangup is yours, not the TV industry.

Nope, definitely the TV industry (Hollyweird).

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Roy Roger never lip-locked Dale Evans, but when the sun went down.........you knew the spurs came off (well, at least some of the time).

Roy Rogers was cancelled 4 years before I was born. It hasn't been relevant since 1957. Most homes now have indoor plumbing, even in rural areas. Oh and communicating with your loved ones can now be done instantly even if the loved one isn't home to answer the landline phone.

The world has evolved. White people are depicted as being friends with black people on TV now. Chinese people aren't only cast as the laundry shop owners anymore. Baseball players come in all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, origins, and sexual preferences. And yes - consenting adults of all varieties on TV kiss. The TV studios want to make sure that ALL the advertisers' potential customers are represented.

That is commerce. When people evolve, the media has to evolve with it. The Puritans are the vast minority, and the vast minority doesn't have as much buying power as the vast majority. This is capitalism at work. The opposite would be communism. I'm okay with capitalism.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Roy Rogers was cancelled 4 years before I was born. It hasn't been relevant since 1957. Most homes now have indoor plumbing, even in rural areas. Oh and communicating with your loved ones can now be done instantly even if the loved one isn't home to answer the landline phone.

The world has evolved. White people are depicted as being friends with black people on TV now. Chinese people aren't only cast as the laundry shop owners anymore. Baseball players come in all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, origins, and sexual preferences. And yes - consenting adults of all varieties on TV kiss. The TV studios want to make sure that ALL the advertisers' potential customers are represented.

That is commerce. When people evolve, the media has to evolve with it. The Puritans are the vast minority, and the vast minority doesn't have as much buying power as the vast majority. This is capitalism at work. The opposite would be communism. I'm okay with capitalism.

Sarcasm Sheldon, sarcasm.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I tend to agree, generally speaking. But when it comes to romance on a drama TV show, if you want the characters to be *believable* you need to allow for the possibility that they might have some expression of affection at some point in a scene or two.

Yes and No. The major networks such as ABC which airs the drama show The Good Doctor, which harkens back to the original post from a week ago, that apparently upset the OP (Boomer). A poster said that the shows display of gay characters was too much in his face and he quit watching. So Boomer felt the need to basically chastise that poster and anyone else who thinks that way.

Originally Posted by Boomer

I saw a thread, since closed, that brought homophobia to the surface with certain posters -- some of whom surprised me. As a longtime secondary teacher, I have wept for students who have committed suicide because of feeling their homosexuality could never be accepted by their families. I am grateful to see how times have changed for so many people. That has saved, and will continue to save, lives.

What Boomer and apparently Orange Blossom Baby neglected to consider is ABC is a broadcast network which falls under the FCC laws about obscene, indecent and profane content, and obscene content does not have protection by the First Amendment. The poster of the previous thread was simply stating his objection to the 'in your face' portrayal of gay characters on it's most recent show.

The Common Sense website states the Good Doctor is a show for 14+ age group and warns about flashbacks to scenes of bullying. Doesn't really sound too risque. However, there are letters posted to Common Sense warning viewers.

Great show. Not for kids
This is a great show, but in the most recent episodes there is so much sex and discussion about sex that it should not be for anyone younger than 16.

The Good Doctor TV Review

I have never watched the Good Doctor, but apparently from comments, it's beginning to crossing the line in areas that are not their norm. I've not watched any recurring network TV shows since the 80's when I watched Moonlighting. I'm only going by the remarks of posters on the subject.

I have watched one episodic TV show, but it was on HBO, the show Six Feet Under. I never watched when it was new, but have since watched all 63 episodes about five times each. It's probably my favorite show if I had to pick one. However, the big difference is it was not on a public broadcast network. It was on a paid premium channel that was HBO, and most everyone who subscribes to HBO knows what they'll be getting.

Anyone that has watched Six Feet Under will know the show was based on the Fisher Family who operated a funeral home in Los Angeles. First off, it's a show about death, it's located in Hollywood, and two of the main characters, Michael C. Hall (who many will know as Dexter, which came later) and Mathew St. Patrick are gay lovers. What's even more off-kilter is St. Patrick portrays an LA Cop, but while on duty looks and plays the part of a cop perfectly. The show's scenes are sometimes the two of them kissing, but knowing the show was on HBO and warned of graphic with nudity, sex, gay, and very raw, it was not a surprise such as ABC and the Good Doctor.

The Good Doctor is about a young surgeon with autism who uses his medical gifts to save lives. Rated as a 14+ TV audience



Six Feet Under chronicles the lives of a dysfunctional family who run an independent funeral home in Los Angeles. Rated as 18+ for mature viewers only.

[Villages Kahuna]

Yep. Too bad. Suggests that The Villages may not be “Florida’s Friendliest Hometown”.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Boomer, I sympathize with your disappointment. I backed away from TOTV as a regular poster and moderator because the toxicity and ever-present vitriol became overwhelming.

But as a moderator, couldn't you have fixed some of that? Just curious, because I did not know that posters could be moderators as well.

[DeeCee Dubya]

Great hubris.

Anybody can post an opinion, but it’s much more Cerebral To do it with style. Happy weekend to everyone.

[brfree1411@aol.com]

I appreciate your post but just like in Facebook or any other media, I just keep rolling. There is a lot of negativity, I share & forward happy & fun posts. We have lots of time on our hands we should look for happiness and share it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

BINGO ! Covid, while it has brought out (in our neighborhood at least) "some" exceptionally kind, caring, neighbors who do not hesitate to help others and don't act like Covid is like leprosy and refuse to even look at their neighbors, in general, it has changed people and not for the best. From my professional education and career, I can tell you of all human emotions, fear is the root of so much irrational behavior and as bad as this all is, so was small pox, polio, and many others, yet, never in my life time have to many allowed this to turn them so vile and judgmental and and disrespectful. For example, if your neighbor has decided going to church in person is what is right for them right now, and you have decided it is not right for YOU right now, why the HATE and public mocking ? If you prefer Coke, and your neighbor prefers Pepsi, why HATE them for that ? ? No, there is something wrong deep inside when people feel this COMPULSION to shame and defile those who do not think EXACTLY as they do.

Sorry but, that "Pepsi vs Coke" thing is a MERE small personal choice about a TRIVIAL preference. Pretend that you are a COVID virus riding on a droplet expelled from some human being's nose or mouth. You (the virus) do NOT care if you infect a Pepsi drinker or a Coke drinker. You are equally effective against either one. That is why that "Pepsi vs Coke" analogy had ZERO transference to the issue of the current CV Plague that affects each individual in TV Land or any human (and some animals apparently) in the world! I am also sorry that my rhetoric is about how serious the EVOLVING Virus actually is. I am sorry that I do NOT understand why so many people on this forum want to downplay that seriousness. I do this because I believe that if more people recognized the magnitude of the problem, then they could react BETTER as a society to fix the problem. It probably could (?) have been fixed months ago if EVERYBODY from a local level upward had been of ONE MIND and determined to put it behind us. I see other countries like Australia taking CV seriously and here in the US it is treated as a non-event, practically a joke. Some will next call me paranoid but, I feel that I am only realistic and I am trying to warn about what I see here locally as treating CV as a non-event. I do NOT think that is a smart attitude! We are older and more experienced, we should be the thought leaders on this subject, not the thought deniers!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Except, being nasty is against the rules of this forum. You can say nasty things all you like, in the privacy of your own home. When you start targeting people and saying nasty things to them on a public forum where ANYONE can see what you're saying, you become subject to the forum's rules. If you have a problem with restriction of what you say, then start your own forum, and invite people to say whatever they want on it, without restriction.

only two things that set me off on here..

1. LIES.....you cannot..it is impossible.....to have an adult conversation when a participant is lying. I am speaking of out and out fabrication, no opinions. There, in my mind is no excuse for that, and in the course of discussion enabling other liars with support is in the same ball park.

EVERY adult knows the difference between lying and difference of opinion, and those that try to pass off enabling a lie, or lying themselves have no respect for this forum, or the other posters.

2. ATTACKS on other posters is my second main critique. My wife was attacked on here about one year ago, because of ME....because I, with owner and moderator okay, allowed her to have her own separate user name. This was considered to be terrible, and on a trip to check PMs, she was boldly and nastily verbally attacked. THAT was her last trip on here. I have had PMs attacking me, and of course the political forum where that was standard action we will discount.

When political forum and outside conversations (things other than dog poop, etc) were encouraged, even a difference of opinion was civil, honest and adult. I used that forum, at that time, to learn from posters ideas and links they provided from their reading (YES, everyone mainly provided links to support their argument)

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by CFrance

But as a moderator, couldn't you have fixed some of that? Just curious, because I did not know that posters could be moderators as well.

Yes moderators can fix.......IF they want to.
There is personal judgement.

That's why there is variation of acceptable content.


Yes posters & moderators can be one & the same.
I have suspended myself twice.

[Nevinmann]

Seems to me part of the cause of this (see subject line) is allowing in cognito and pseudo name posting. I once had a fellow Villager caution me against using my real name for fear that "people will go after you."

If I have something to say, I'm happy to use my name and if someone has a problem with my thoughts, let's have a discussion.

Otherwise, settle for name calling and outrageous remarks.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by John41

coincidentally a few months later villas starting popping up in the buffalo pasture

The "almighty " PROFIT motive! Which motivates humans to constantly turn GREEN spaces into GREEN currency and non-green, non-oxygen-producing PARKING LOTS. When will that all stop - when the human species is extinct ? The buffalo herd was natural history and beauty all rolled into one. How unique are buffalo ? How un-unique and common is a concrete building with a PARKING LOT ? Which has more beauty and has more of a calming influence on viewers? Which would more artists like to paint? Someday in the barren future, people will wish that they made ALL decisions based on "QUALITY OF LIFE". It will definitely NOT be PROFITS.