[Gpsma]

[QUOTE=Polar Bear;1441932]

Originally Posted by bbbbbb

You assume the need or desire for change. TV is not as different as other places as many would profess it to be.

Many advocates of "temperance" will quickly bring up DWI as an excuse to control other's consumption of alcohol.

[Chi-Town]

Already covered in FL.

n. a statute (Dram Shop*Act) or caselaw*in 43 states which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest.

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[Chatbrat]

In Fl the business is allowed to totally exempt, except if the patrol was under 21 or known to have drinking problem--you would think the trial lawyers would work to change this law-after all, they look for the deepest pockets

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Already covered in FL.

n. a statute (Dram Shop*Act) or caselaw*in 43 states which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest.

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Is Dram shop something from Chicago? I have never heard that term.

Here is some general information.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financi...-statutes.aspx


Some states do not allow children to be seated where alcohol is served. Not so in Ohio. The local pubs often have families dining in view of the bar. (All those beer drinkin' Germans)

[Dan9871]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is Dram shop something from Chicago? I have never heard that term.

"Dram shop or dramshop is a legal term in the United States referring to a bar, tavern or the like where alcoholic beverages are sold. Traditionally, it referred to a shop where spirits were sold by the dram, a small unit of liquid."

Dram shop - Wikipedia

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Dan9871

"Dram shop or dramshop is a legal term in the United States referring to a bar, tavern or the like where alcoholic beverages are sold. Traditionally, it referred to a shop where spirits were sold by the dram, a small unit of liquid."

Dram shop - Wikipedia

Apparently a term not used much in Ohio or Florida.

Our niece is a regional sales representative for a major U.S. Wine Company. Uncle was regional sales manager for many years for Jim Beam. Father and Grandfather were managing directors of a large family owned brewery in Ohio. Both brewmasters. Just because I don't drink, doesn't mean I haven't heard the language. I have never heard a bar called a dram shop. EVER. Until this day. Shows you that our language is regional. We try not to get on the wrong side of the law.... Although a couple of lawyers have snuck into the family.

[Chatbrat]

The term is in the florida statute

[Miles42]

Its The Villages Old Folks drink.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Miles42

Its The Villages Old Folks drink.

Boredom ?

[spring_chicken]

The term is used nationwide. It is a LEGAL term, not a REGIONAL term.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by spring_chicken

The term is used nationwide. It is a LEGAL term, not a REGIONAL term.

I have never heard it. I imagine the TERM is used in states that have the law in place that places responsibility for drunks on the server, which Ohio does not. Betcha. Ever heard the terms three two and six percent in reference to alcohol serving?

I just asked my husband if he knew what a dram shop is and he said no. He isn't a dummy.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Is Dram shop something from Chicago? I have never heard that term.

Here is some general information.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financi...-statutes.aspx


Some states do not allow children to be seated where alcohol is served. Not so in Ohio. The local pubs often have families dining in view of the bar. (All those beer drinkin' Germans)

Cook county has a dram shop law on the books. Hard to believe I know in the land of Al Capone.

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[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have never heard it. I imagine the TERM is used in states that have the law in place that places responsibility for drunks on the server, which Ohio does not. Betcha. Ever heard the terms three two and six percent in reference to alcohol serving?

I just asked my husband if he knew what a dram shop is and he said no. He isn't a dummy.

It is a legal term arising from the 19th century temperance movement. Dram shop - Wikipedia

As a first year law student I first heard the term used in class by my torts professor.

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have never heard it. I imagine the TERM is used in states that have the law in place that places responsibility for drunks on the server, which Ohio does not. Betcha. Ever heard the terms three two and six percent in reference to alcohol serving?

I just asked my husband if he knew what a dram shop is and he said no. He isn't a dummy.

I guess we called dram shops beer joints or pubs way back when in Ohio. I remember 3.2% beer with the red circle of wording on top of the can for 18 to 21 year olds. I was told 3.2 beer was just that, and 6% was actually about 3.8%. And there was a time years ago in Ohio that a parent could order alcohol for a minor in a bar, but the establishment could refuse to serve it knowing it was for the child. I bet that has changed.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by bagboy

I guess we called dram shops beer joints or pubs way back when in Ohio. I remember 3.2% beer with the red circle of wording on top of the can for 18 to 21 year olds. I was told 3.2 beer was just that, and 6% was actually about 3.8%. And there was a time years ago in Ohio that a parent could order alcohol for a minor in a bar, but the establishment could refuse to serve it knowing it was for the child. I bet that has changed.

You are right. In some states people mistakenly call pop, "soda".