[handyman]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And so would I, If I KNEW the truth. I am sure that all people who live there know what the rest of us think we know, that one or more of the four are responsible, but they don't know which one or more are. AND you have to have proof.

It isn't fair to hang the whole neighborhood. That is NOT right. No matter what you suspect.

So let's hang everyone South of 466 and stick them with the fine !I am not an Einstein ,but I think I would know the sound of chain saws and work trucks rumbling through such a small and elite neighborhood, and want to know what is going on?No I am not happy paying for someone that has committed a crime,and the cutting of those oaks was a crime plain and simple......I am not looking for an argument just stating my opinion.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by joldnol

the rich almost always get away with it

Originally Posted by graciegirl

THE RICH? THE POOR? THE BLACK? THE CHINESE? THE DEMOCRATS? THE REPUBLICANS? THE OLD? THE YOUNG?

How about the people responsible?

WHAT if YOU lived in that neighborhood? That is SO unfair. That is just like saying that all people who live in a Designer home are less scrupulous than those who live in a Ranch home. People are people, how much or how little money they have in the bank does not make them good or bad unless they broke the law to get it..Every person needs to take care of themselves, obey the laws, and be responsible, whether they live in a teacup or a trailer or the Taj Mahal.

Thank you for saying the right thing, Gracie. You responded correctly to a pretty unresponsible post.

[Bonanza]

I am incensed at the supposed outcome of this treeorama . . . .
that it is being dropped and closed at an apparent whim that no one wants to be bothered with it any longer???
A cold case that will remain cold ad infinitum???

I smell a fish and it stinks!

[mulligan]

How about call the media and stage a march around the roundabout at the entrance to Bridgeport. Just a coincidence that on the opposite side is the signature golf course. There must be an upcoming event........

[getdul981]

Just curious, but who decided that a select few, i.e. people south of CR 466, should bear the expense of this instead of the entire community?

You want to hear some squealing, just tell the folks up at Mulberry Grove that they have to chip in on this too.

I guess if someone should happen to come by and cut down one of our palm trees, we would get a replacement paid for by everyone south of CR 466.

[Challenger]

Not an issue of rich vs poor. Simply a criminal act perpetrated by one or more who benefitted and some neighbors who are either beind coerced (maybe scared)into silence or are complicit.

This definitely should not be allowed to stand. During WWII there was a popular admonision "Loose lips sink ships" If we keep the pressure on , someone will eventually loosen up.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

I am incensed at the supposed outcome of this treeorama . . . .
that it is being dropped and closed at an apparent whim that no one wants to be bothered with it any longer???
A cold case that will remain cold ad infinitum???

I smell a fish and it stinks!

But I still don't understand, Bonanza. What do you suspect is the conspiracy? The bill, the fine, to the St.John's River Authority has to be paid. This happened last fall. That doesn't mean the district can't sue in the future if they find out which homeowner is responsible.

What am I missing? And thank you for the kind remark.

I don't get it. Who besides the people who PROBABLY had it done who wanted a clear view to the water could be at fault???? WHO would benefit? It is on a sort of island of land in Lake Miona behind four homes who reportedly (wasn't that in the paper?)had wood stacked behind their houses. The island does not belong to any of them. It belongs to the district, a kind of common area, a preserve that the St.John's River Authority has power over. It isn't the homeowners land but the homeowners benefited from a clear view to water. The land belongs to the CDD, i.e. all of us who live south of 466 are part of that CDD.

If someone stole all of the flowers from a piece of land in the middle of one of our streets and the district replaced them, we would be mad, but our money would pay to replace them. We could leave it bare. (But in this case The St. John's river bunch says to replace them)

. If someone saw a bunch of flowers in someone's yard that matched those flowers they'd be PRETTY SURE...but how can you prove that?

That is how it looks to me. How does it look to others????

I am hoping that someone is gonna find out and we on this forum will KNOW who did it and that landscaper is gonna be toast.

I HOPE Someone is gonna be found out. AND HOPEFULLY ante up, but you cannot convict someone even if they look guilty as hell. You have to have proof. Doesn't anyone watch true crime on TV like I do??? lol.

[virgind]

OK so I'm going to pay for something that I'm not going to get. It's the American way. I think this case should be looked at by the state attorney general.

[Challenger]

The conspiracy is not the act of cutting , but the obvious pact of silence by some in the neighborhood after the fact

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by virgind

OK so I'm going to pay for something that I'm not going to get. It's the American way. I think this case should be looked at by the state attorney general.

OH Gawd. I wish I had studied law. I don't think that is how it works. THANK goodness we have laws although it seems they are protecting the guilty way tooo much.

When a guy, a really bad guy does something wrong and is caught, and is put in jail for years, maybe life?...Guess who is paying for his baked beans? And his beddy bye?

I would love to have a bake sale in the street in front of these four homes in order to earn money to pay for the trees. I think things like this and my husband says, "that isn't nice and it would do NO good." He thinks the same about marches.

In this world there are the hot heads and there are the thinkers. And there is me, that used to think that there was an answer for all problems, that was when I was young and a lib....WHOOPS.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

...And there is me, that used to think that there was an answer for all problems, that was when I was young and a lib....WHOOPS.

Now now, gracie!!! You don't want to be banished to that other forum!! [emoji79]

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

I am incensed at the supposed outcome of this treeorama . . .that it is being dropped and closed at an apparent whim that no one wants to be bothered with it any longer? A cold case that will remain cold ad infinitum? I smell a fish and it stinks!

Originally Posted by graciegirl

What am I missing?

Graciegirl -- we all know that you don't miss much!
However in this case, I think you're missing that the opening post started with the fact that Janet Tutt announced that "there are no further leads to pursue" so case closed in the tree removal case.

I think the inference that the matter isn't worth any more investigative time is leading to frustration on the part of the respondents.

Perhaps Ms. Tutt's comment should have been worded differently.
Perhaps if she'd said that the District will pay the fine but the case isn't closed and any further leads will be pursued, the comments would be softer.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Graciegirl -- we all know that you don't miss much!
However in this case, I think you're missing that the opening post started with the fact that Janet Tutt announced that "there are no further leads to pursue" so case closed in the tree removal case.

I think the inference that the matter isn't worth any more investigative time is leading to frustration on the part of the respondents.

Perhaps Ms. Tutt's comment should have been worded differently.
Perhaps if she'd said that the District will pay the fine but the case isn't closed and any further leads will be pursued, the comments would be softer.

But she would have said that if that was the case. It sounds like they are thinking exactly what you said in your paragraph about the "inference."

[virgind]

Perhaps this could be crimes against seniors. After all we are the district we the district monies comes from us. Seeing as they cant find the culprits then?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by mulligan

How about call the media and stage a march around the roundabout at the entrance to Bridgeport. Just a coincidence that on the opposite side is the signature golf course. There must be an upcoming event........

This makes so much sense...............not!