Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Agree. You are what your DNA says you are. Surgical reassignment is just plastic surgery to project what you want to look like. Like breast augmentation or a butt lift or a nose (or "hose" ) job. Some people want to change gender. Some even want to change their species. Fine by me. Look like you want to look. Live like you want to live. But if your DNA says you are human male, that is what you are. If you want to lie to yourself, fine. But don't cry if others won't participate in the lie. Reality is what it is and all the PC will do is perpetuate the lie and obscure truth.

Yep, quite simple... "XX" or "XY". Who knew that that single day is middle school science class would end up being so important. Most people don't know or can't remember which is man and which is woman. Buried bones DON'T LIE. Take Women and Men signs off public bathroom doors and put up XX and XY. For Sports... XX , XY and third classification "??" Or "fejutdeguetsbmc".

[HoosierPa]

You are the gender you were born with. Period. Any other claim is BS

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Agree. You are what your DNA says you are. Surgical reassignment is just plastic surgery to project what you want to look like. Like breast augmentation or a butt lift or a nose (or "hose" ) job. Some people want to change gender. Some even want to change their species. Fine by me. Look like you want to look. Live like you want to live. But if your DNA says you are human male, that is what you are. If you want to lie to yourself, fine. But don't cry if others won't participate in the lie. Reality is what it is and all the PC will do is perpetuate the lie and obscure truth.

VERY well said!! No one says you have to join the crazies. Wonder how they handle the hermaphrodite

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Another useless post

And there is still another

[irishwonone]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

TSA Precheck Questions regarding gender currently only allow M or F. But apparently your choice. Either one is OK. But they plan to provide more options in the near future.
Why do they even ask if it does not matter?

The Questions

Am I required to select the gender that matches the gender on my identity documentation?

You can now select your preferred gender, even if the gender you select does not match the gender on your supporting documentation (such as birth certificate, passport, or state ID). You can select “M” or “F” which are the gender options currently available.

Is medical certification required to change the gender options for TSA PreCheck®?

Medical certification is not required to change the gender options on your TSA PreCheck® application. If you are a member of the TSA PreCheck® Application Program, you may call (855) 347-8371 weekdays, between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m. ET, to request a change of your gender options in your records. You may also submit your inquiry online. Please note, updating your gender is not required to receive TSA PreCheck® screening. You will receive TSA PreCheck® screening even if your current gender differs from the gender you provided when you enrolled in TSA PreCheck®.

What does it mean that I can self-select my preferred gender during the TSA PreCheck® application process?

You can select the gender you would like in your TSA PreCheck® record by simply checking “M” or “F”. Medical certification or a physician’s letter is not required when enrolling with a gender that does not match the gender on your identification documents.

Do I need to have the gender on my birth certificate, passport and/or driver’s license changed before I can get it changed on my TSA PreCheck® application?

No, the gender on your identification documents does not need to match the gender you select on your TSA PreCheck® Application.

If I identify as neither male “M” or female “F” or I have identity documentation in a non-binary gender, can I apply with a non-binary gender options or no gender options?

You can still apply for TSA PreCheck® but you must select “M” or “F” which are the gender options currently available. TSA is in the process of adding a third gender option for non-binary, intersex, and gender non-conforming individuals but cannot provide an exact timeline for when we will begin offering a third gender options.

I imagine The Villages Senior Games will be using this in a couple years😳

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

As an atheist I don't accept that God made me. This is a secular society, so our rules are based on science. Science says there is a spectrum of "sex" from male to female.

I understand you base your concept of sex on religious beliefs, and I respect that. I have no desire to change your sex or your beliefs. I wish you would offer me the same respect based on my beliefs and the science that supports me.

Suggestion: Sensitive Atheists could simply exchange the word “God” with the word “nature” and just let it go. Or alternatively just go off on a tangent.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by banjobob

God made Male and Female period , what you think you are or how you think you are is irrelevant.

Well he missed me out.
I am male and have never had a period!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

VERY well said!! No one says you have to join the crazies. Wonder how they handle the hermaphrodite

With tongs.

[noslices1]

I’ve been waiting for this to happen. I think I’m going to “Identify” as a Klingon non-binary on my TSA Precheck ID. How “WOKE” can we get?

[rrtjp]

Every morning that I wake up on the right side of the grass and look at all the beauty around me, I thank God not science. Personally I liked it better when men wanted to be men and women wanted to be women. That being said, If someone wants to play dress up and are not hurting anyone there are bigger issues in the world to worry about.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Get real

I thought I turned the camera off. That's why I'm getting all those PM's from women.

[mamamia54]

Many want to be identified as it, they and them now. I still don’t understand how one person is a them.

[NoMo50]

Folks should watch the movie "Idiocracy" if they want to see what our world is devolving into.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I do not base my concept of sex on religion. I am an agnostic. In my previous post I said " what God or nature made you" in order include both religious and non- religious points of view. I believe in science but I don't hold only with science that tells me what supports my point of view. Science is constantly evolving and my point of view changes as science changes. I don't let politics or social cliques or PC standards of the day dictate what or how I think. Therefore, in keeping with the theme of the thread, I stand by my position that your are what your DNA says you are, regardless of surgery, drugs, lifestyle preference, etc.

Thank you for your civil reply. I appreciate it. And I think we are closer to agreeing than disagreeing. I too believe that we are what our DNA makes us. I think the difference between us is how diverse I think the DNA has able to make us.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by mamamia54

Many want to be identified as it, they and them now. I still don’t understand how one person is a them.

Me, myself and I, perhaps?😒