[Whalen]

The property in question, Sumter Place, is in The Villages.

It is an independent/assisted living rental facility.

Sumter Place | Sumter Place

[mulligan]

It may be in TV, but it is an outside independent developer, who actually owns a few of this type facility.

[Pturner]

Originally Posted by bimmertl

Decided to take a ride in the convertible and see first hand what all the fuss is about.

We were looking at new homes in TV in Sept 07. We specifically looked at an under construction Designer home that backed up to an empty lot overlooking 466A. Our realtor said he heard a Publix was going to go on the empty lot. I have no doubt that in 07 nobody was sure what was going to be there as property was for sale and nothing was finalized. We didn't buy the home for reasons having nothing to do with the empty lot.

That home now backs up directly to the multi story facility as do others. I doubt there is anybody who frequents this site that would want one of these homes. Whether or not somebody is looking out of their window or not is irrelevant. It's not a pretty site and no doubt their property values are dramatically affected.

Bottom line, it's a mess if you live directly behind it. Doubt you could have found out about it in 07.

I suggest all of you who think it's not a big deal get in your golf cart or car and go see for your selves and then ask a simple question, would I want to live there?

Of course if you happen to be in front of a computer screen in Atlanta, you can just keep imagining it's all just "gorgeous". Well guess what, it's not!

Hi Bimmertl,
I agree that you could not have found out in '07 what was going to eventually be built on that vacant property. That's the point. One always takes a risk buying next to vacant property.

The fact that it is risky to buy next to vacant property is what should have been known in '07, and is ideally what should be known today by anyone considering buying next to vacant property for the view. The one almost certainty is that you will be buying a view that is here today and gone tomorrow.

You have a point that it is easy for me to imagine it will be gorgeous. I base it on the fact that homes near the current assisted living in TV ended up with nice neighbors and no harm that I can see.

It is also easy to imagine that it won't be gorgeous, as nothing is during construction. I hope it turns out to be gorgeous and does not ultimately harm nearby neighbors.

[Whalen]

Originally Posted by mulligan

It may be in TV, but it is an outside independent developer, who actually owns a few of this type facility.

But the developer owns the land.
Was just perusing their website and noticed that residents will also have access to all Villager amenities.

[CSilvestrucci]

When I bought my lot in Bonita I had beautiful sunsets every night as nothing was between me and Buena Vista Blvd for a few short months. Little by little the houses went up and my view was reduced to a glimmer of a sunset. I knew that land wouldn't stay vacant forever so I just enjoyed it for the short time I had it. But in return for the loss of the sunset view every evening I got wonderful neighbors who have become wonderful friends. My glass is always half full ... Life is so good here

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by CSilvestrucci

When I bought my lot in Bonita I had beautiful sunsets every night as nothing was between me and Buena Vista Blvd for a few short months. Little by little the houses went up and my view was reduced to a glimmer of a sunset. I knew that land wouldn't stay vacant forever so I just enjoyed it for the short time I had it. But in return for the loss of the sunset view every evening I got wonderful neighbors who have become wonderful friends. My glass is always half full ... Life is so good here

[CSilvestrucci]

We do have it good here in Bonita

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CSilvestrucci

When I bought my lot in Bonita I had beautiful sunsets every night as nothing was between me and Buena Vista Blvd for a few short months. Little by little the houses went up and my view was reduced to a glimmer of a sunset. I knew that land wouldn't stay vacant forever so I just enjoyed it for the short time I had it. But in return for the loss of the sunset view every evening I got wonderful neighbors who have become wonderful friends. My glass is always half full ... Life is so good here

I think that those who live very close to you are very fortunate!

[villages07]

Originally Posted by Whalen

But the developer owns the land.
Was just perusing their website and noticed that residents will also have access to all Villager amenities.

Whalen...interesting observation. I wasn't aware that they would (or is it could) be paying amenity fees. Wonder if it will be mandatory or optional. I recall a controversy when the VCCDD approved allowing Freedom Pointe residents access to amenities (and, yes, they do pay the fee). This was sort of after the building was started/completed.

Here's a link to the Daily Sun announcement about Sumter Place... it strongly implies (without outright stating it) that their residents would have access to amenities (for the fee, I'm sure).

Partners break ground on 104-unit assisted-living facility - The Villages Daily Sun: Villages


In both cases, FP and Sumter Place, the overwhelming majority of residents are/will be former Villagers. I can understand the desire to continue their relationships with clubs, neighbors, etc. They are a relatively few units that pay full fee but put minimal drain on amenity resources.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.... I empathize with the folks in Duval affected by this. For the longest time, the "official" Villages road map showed that as a financial center, so, there was an expectation of low rise, M-F business. The new facility is beautiful but it is big and can be seen from far away.

As others have said, vacant land behind you can always be changed so there is risk when purchasing such a lot.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by villages07

............As others have said, vacant land behind you can always be changed so there is risk when purchasing such a lot.

Witness the creation of The Haciendas of Mission Hills (at the SE corner of Morse and 466) as well. That area had originally been set up/zoned for commercial use a number of years back.

Bill

[JohnN]

If you buy property adjacent to vacant space, you take a risk.
What you're "told" doesn't really much matter, plans change.

[graciegirl]

Could someone good with a camera take some pictures of this place? From 466A and from the residential street behind?

[bimmertl]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Could someone good with a camera take some pictures of this place? From 466A and from the residential street behind?

Check out some of the photos in the Sumter Place link. It gives you and idea of where the homes are backing up to the facility but doesn't do justice to the height of the structure behind the homes.



Photos / Videos | Sumter Place

[Russ_Boston]

When we bought, our first priority (other than making sure we had room for Linda's pool), was to not buy on any open land. We looked at many lots that currently look out over the cow/horse pasture on 466a. We looked at a nice lot that is on an outside golf course (Lake Miona) and we also looked at a few in that Duval area. But you can not be sure what will be built. Do I feel bad that their house view has been altered? Sure. Do I think it is legally actionable or reprehensible? No.

[zonerboy]

Looked at the photos cited in post #43.
You can see the houses effected, from the beginning, were built right up close to the wall separating them from the undeveloped property, with hardly any back yards. So that makes the presence of a huge new building seem even more intrusive. Hopefully some landscaping on the assisted living side will help.
Also note that there are still vacant properties on either side of this facility which eventually will be developed.