[ElDiabloJoe]

After a thorough following of the latest thread (13 pages at last check) on Homelessness in The Village, I was reminded of my friend's theory. Tell me what you think.

I mention his name for four reasons: 1, AFAIK, he is the creator of this theory; 2, He lives thousands of miles from here so the chances anyone knows him are slim; 3, His name is part of the theory; and 4. I want to give credit for creation where credit is due.

My friend, his surname is Stroup, told me his theory about Utopia, or "Stroup-topia" if you will. It is very simple. Is it ideal? I wonder.

His theory was this: Get the country's absolute brightest minds from a wide variety of fields (commerce, government, arts, etc.) and put them in a room to fulfill one single task. That task is to assign a point value, 0-10, for every crime, transgression, rule violation, etc.

Something like a murder would be a 10, a rape maybe a 9. A burglary might be worth 4 points. Jaywalking might be 1/4 point.

The theory is this: Once a person has reached 10 points in their lifetime, they are taken out and immediately, unceremoniously, yet humanely, terminated.

From one murder, or a decade of jaywalking, or more than a couple burglaries committed in their misspent youth, once a person has reached 10 points, they have proven themselves to be an unredeemable burden to society in general and the population as a whole.

Could work, maybe?

[retiredguy123]

Wow. You would be terminating a lot of people. But, people can't even agree on the death penalty for any crime. A jury just rejected it for a guy who committed 17 murders.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Wow. You would be terminating a lot of people. But, people can't even agree on the death penalty for any crime. A jury just rejected it for a guy who committed 17 murders.

Not me. I would not be terminating a lot of people. I’m not advocating mass termination at all. It’s a theory, not a proposal. I’m putting forth a theory I heard of a society with consequences, not of imposing that immediately upon our society. It’s an illustration, an idea, a discussion point, not an actual proposition.

Perhaps a society where everyone knows from a very young age that their actions have eventual consequences might produce a better society for the law abiding and self-accountable folks while protecting them from those who are neither.

Might be best if there were a grace-period, like the points do not start to accumulate until the age of 12 or something. Except for the highest point items of course, you don’t get off scot-free of murder just because you did it five days before you turned 12 or whatever age the appointed geniuses chose.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Something like a murder would be a 10, a rape maybe a 9. A burglary might be worth 4 points. Jaywalking might be 1/4 point.

The theory is this: Once a person has reached 10 points in their lifetime, they are taken out and immediately, unceremoniously, yet humanely, terminated.

Jaywalking is .25 so after jaywalking 40 times, you are going to execute someone? I would think that everyone on this board has jaywalked 40 times before high school.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Jaywalking is .25 so after jaywalking 40 times, you are going to execute someone? I would think that everyone on this board has jaywalked 40 times before high school.

Before junior high

[PugMom]

am i mistaken, or does China already have a similar system? social points given according to the type of citizen you are, ie: good, bad, or ugly, lol

[Bogie Shooter]

There’s a movie “Nineteen Eighty-Four” that comes close.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

There’s a movie “Nineteen Eighty-Four” that comes close.

[Berwin]

Sounds a little like that Star Trek TNG episode where they visited a planet where the penalty for any transgression was death and Wesley fell into a garden plot and was going to be executed.

[Annie66]

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe

Not me. I would not be terminating a lot of people. I’m not advocating mass termination at all. It’s a theory, not a proposal. I’m putting forth a theory I heard of a society with consequences, not of imposing that immediately upon our society. It’s an illustration, an idea, a discussion point, not an actual proposition.

Perhaps a society where everyone knows from a very young age that their actions have eventual consequences might produce a better society for the law abiding and self-accountable folks while protecting them from those who are neither.

Might be best if there were a grace-period, like the points do not start to accumulate until the age of 12 or something. Except for the highest point items of course, you don’t get off scot-free of murder just because you did it five days before you turned 12 or whatever age the appointed geniuses chose.

I think the Developer would be violently opposed simply because the number of home buyers would be significantly diminished.

A different idea would be to deport all the offenders with 10 points to Australia, just like the Brits did years ago.

[RICH1]

A Vigilante Crew can handle this!

[dougawhite]

You should be able to remove points when you do above average good things, like saving a life or volunteering so long at a food bank.

[hypart]

Who doesn't Jaywalk? If there's no car coming within miles, you still wait for the light to turn before you cross the street?

If you don't jaywalk then that should be a 5 pointer at least for being stupid.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Annie66

I think the Developer would be violently opposed simply because the number of home buyers would be significantly diminished.

A different idea would be to deport all the offenders with 10 points to Australia, just like the Brits did years ago.

Or follow the concept of the 1981 movie "Escape from NY" and build a giant jail.

[GmaLisaG]

Wow. Just wow.