[Vinny]

Was in the neighborhood pool today when I saw someone checking ID cards. To my surprise I was told that they only check your card if you are not in the pool and sure enough that is what happened.

I may be stupid but I am not dumb. The way they keep non residents from using the pool is to only check the ID of people not using the pool. So, to not get caught using the pool without an ID, all you need to do is to be using the pool when they check. I am sure that there is a back story for this but as someone who writes security procedures for a living, this is ludicrous.

[aln]

I think the general consensus is that getting everyone out of the pool for 'id check' would make more residents mad than catch violators.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by aln

i think the general consensus is that getting everyone out of the pool for 'id check' would make more residents mad than catch violators.

yup.

Originally Posted by graciegirl

yup.

I have to agree with Gracie. I know how I would fee if that was something that they did.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by aln

I think the general consensus is that getting everyone out of the pool for 'id check' would make more residents mad than catch violators.

The existing system makes sense to me.

[redwitch]

Frankly, I really don't care if one or two people manage to sneak in and use our facilities. Even so, I understand it is the rule and, thus, should be enforced. So, I'm sort of with you, Vinny -- if they're going to check, they should have a system to check everyone -- not just the loungers. Maybe a card reader at each pool so that the gate won't open without an ID card since they really can't have someone be on duty at the pool on a continuous basis.

[Russ_Boston]

But as long as they check a lot then the law of averages would say that the non-residents will get caught 50% of the time. Or whatever time someone spends at the pool but not actually in the water.

You know what I'm trying to say

[chuckinca]

What section of the law of averages says that?

I think it is more like 90% - about the same as the time spent in the pool versus the time getting sun. And when they are caught they should be charged with trespass and taken directly to the Villages jail for a thirty day stay (paid for by villages amenities fees).



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[Russ_Boston]

OK they get caught 10% of the time. But every time I've been to a pool there are plenty of people on the sides. Very seldom are there 9 out of 10 people in the water.

Two years ago they did make us get out and show an ID (in the Largo pool).

The point is: Do you really want them making an announcement that "OK everyone out of the pool while we check ID's"?


I know I don't.

[Bryan]

The "Villages Jail"????? If only we had one. And if only Community Watch had the authority to do something - anything!

[Pats2010]

Originally Posted by Bryan

The "Villages Jail"????? If only we had one. And if only Community Watch had the authority to do something - anything!

That's funny. I had visions of dozens of "Barney Fifes" running around yelling "Citizen's Arrest!!!"

Seriously, I think if they had maybe a little more authority, maybe it would be a tighter ship?

[Larryandlinda]

Originally Posted by Bryan

The "Villages Jail"????? If only we had one. And if only Community Watch had the authority to do something - anything!

maybe a 'dunking stool' for those that illegally enter the pool...
No, wait, that would be like suspending a kid for skipping school


Reminds us of a joke (Maybe Groucho?)

Guy goes to the beach that doesn't allow Jewish people
He says "I'm half Jewish, can I go in up to my waist?"

Though we own homes in TV, we have to trade in the card back and forth to renters frequently, and since we usually come to stay during the dog days when the pools are empty (the pool police can outnumber the guests) and hot as a bathtub, sometimes we don't have the card.
It would be nice to be able to prove we are not renegade seniors crashing the party.
Like a near-empty restaurant that encourages patrons to park in the front and seats them in the front window, it's 'better for business' to have people at the pool during the slower times.

We vote for a little flexibility from the pool cops and legislators.

L and L

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

The point is: Do you really want them making an announcement that "OK everyone out of the pool while we check ID's"? I know I don't.

I think the existing system is working fine. I don't think there is a serious "invader" problem. I've seen people get caught at the pool without IDs. Usually the offenders are sheepish Village residents who forgot to bring their IDs. Only once was it a visitor without a guest pass.

Dee's solution of a card reader at the entry gate is a good one. But I'm not sure the problem is large enough to justify the cost. And polite Villager residents would hold the gate open for others anyway!

[Whatever]

I would have no problem picking up the pool phone to call community watch to come by and check all ID's if I overheard that someone was bringing in people who do not belong at the pool that MY amenities pay for. Why should those from out side the Villages not have to pay? I also pray those good meaning souls (our villagers) who sit around trying to beat the system at our expense understand that to give an inch will soon be a mile. Should they also be allowed to use our other ammenities. Can I go to Spruce Creek and use their pools w/o showing some form of identity that I belong?

[dillywho]

I don't really understand why some think it is ok for "occasional" outsiders to use our pools. If that's the case, why do we have to have an ID, period? Everyone screams bloody-murder when someone other than Villagers want to play golf on the executive courses but not about the pools. We pay for the pools with our ammenity fees just like we do for the rec centers and golf courses, so what's the difference? Those who pay extra for the country club pool privileges don't want the non-payers there either, even if they are Villagers. Why? Because those with memberships pay and expect others not to be there.

I don't know how many of you remember that Katie Belle's used to be open to anyone. When it got to the point that the Villagers could not get in because non-Villagers kept it filled, then it went to a private status for Villagers and their guests only. When the non-Villagers first started going there, it was no big deal, either.

Why wait until it is a big deal at the pools? Rules are rules and not just when you feel like it.