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I think owning a house in The Villages is a very good investment. I'm not at all worried about resale value.
I think we should open our arms and hearts, and welcome new residents to our beautiful city.


While I realize there are a number of TV'ers that have purchased more than one house here, I'm thinking for the majority of us 'frogs'...resale value isn't really an issue anyway.

"Let the kids worry about it"...is my position.

As far as it being so crowded, particularly during peak season, I also don't worry about that too much as the seasonal folks do go away for a while and pay the same fees as us full-timers...even though they don't use the facilities year around (thanks for that Barefoot ).


Even with warts and all, it's still overall a great place to live so I am certainly not going to be selfish and get an attitude of... "I found mine, you go somewhere else."
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While I realize there are a number of TV'ers that have purchased more than one house here, I'm thinking for the majority of us 'frogs'...resale value isn't really an issue anyway.

"Let the kids worry about it"...is my position.

As far as it being so crowded, particularly during peak season, I also don't worry about that too much as the seasonal folks do go away for a while and pay the same fees as us full-timers...even though they don't use the facilities year around (thanks for that Barefoot ).


Even with warts and all, it's still overall a great place to live so I am certainly not going to be selfish and get an attitude of... "I found mine, you go somewhere else."
Oh, no. I must be living in an episode of the twilight zone, since I once again agree with you. I've lost count of the score. I think someone drugged my coffee
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Oh, no. I must be living in an episode of the twilight zone, since I once again agree with you. I've lost count of the score. I think someone drugged my coffee
It's 4.5:5.5...in MY favor.
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While I realize there are a number of TV'ers that have purchased more than one house here, I'm thinking for the majority of us 'frogs'...resale value isn't really an issue anyway.

"Let the kids worry about it"...is my position.

As far as it being so crowded, particularly during peak season, I also don't worry about that too much as the seasonal folks do go away for a while and pay the same fees as us full-timers...even though they don't use the facilities year around (thanks for that Barefoot ).


Even with warts and all, it's still overall a great place to live so I am certainly not going to be selfish and get an attitude of... "I found mine, you go somewhere else."
I agree.
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It's 4.5:5.5...in MY favor.
How did it jump from 4.5 to 1.5 in MY favor to 4.5 to 5.5 in YOURS. Looks like "fuzzy math" to me
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How did it jump from 4.5 to 1.5 in MY favor to 4.5 to 5.5 in YOURS. Looks like "fuzzy math" to me
Dang...busted.

You lied then when you said... "I've lost count of the score."


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Dang...busted.

You lied then when you said... "I've lost count of the score."


Just a simple sting operation
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Much greater detail from the Wildwood site on density and other issues -> http://wildwoodcityfl.iqm2.com/Citiz...59&Inline=True
Thank you for that link. It is the text of the proposal and a document from TV asking for changes in the Wildwood planning rules. Essentially what has been done, IMO, is that the city of Wildwood has agreed to lower their standards to make them conform to Sumter County's rules. Civics lessons way back when taught that each jurisdiction as it became more urbanized would have more regulation. Thus the county would be less regulated than a township, and a city more regulated than a township.

This process is being reversed and the city of Wildwood is lowering its rules for the Villages.

Included in this amendment is a change in how wetlands are to be protected. They will be mostly removed from protection on this property and future private property and only protected on public property.

And the definition of lands which must be left natural for the benefit of endangered species is also changed. It had said that land containing such species must be protected as well as "primary habitat". That has been removed. So if no animal is nesting there today, it can be developed. Underlined clause to be removed:


"Policy 1.14.3 Wildlife habitat occupied by endangered, threatened, or species of special concern (particularly those identified as primary habitat for endangered or threatened species) shall be protected and conserved directly or indirectly by rules and principles established in Conservation policies. "

and this new rule inserted by TV

"Development impacts to listed species will be avoided when practicable." my bold

For further reading on how TV is changing the Wildwood rules on protection of wetlands and protected species begin reading at packet page 103 in the link
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More Doctors and nurses are needed to staff the facilities already here. Given the mild climate of central Florida and the reasonable cost of living, one would think these professionals would be attracted to this area. That said, I wouldn't bet against the Village Developer getting more hospital beds and recruiting more doctors and nurses to The Villages, Florida. The Villages is the "talk" of the real estate world.
Before more beds are added you need a CON, from the state, with the flux of seasonal residents, its harder to prove need of beds. Yes TV sends recruiting info, but for about 60% less income warm weather or not most don't take that option.
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Am I the only one not happy with this news?
Another 20,000 homes?

Imagine the traffic, the restaurants and stores, etc. that will turn into feeling like snow bird season all year round.

This has happened to me in N.J. & Tampa - I moved into a quieter place and they built it up until the quality of life wasn't there anymore.

Of course The Villages doing the expansion I know it will be a total class act.
But that is a huge increase in the area!
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This will probably get lost amongst all the speculation, but the Online News has backed off from their "20,000 more homes" and has replaced it with a new article stating that this whole thing is still 14,000 including Fenney. Just as previously announced weeks ago.

No mention of their incorrect math from before.
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Before more beds are added you need a CON, from the state, with the flux of seasonal residents, its harder to prove need of beds. Yes TV sends recruiting info, but for about 60% less income warm weather or not most don't take that option.
The question actually is whether or not more inpatient beds are needed, more physicians are needed, both, or neither. Given enough political clout, a CON is relatively easy to obtain.

My post on recruiting was referring to TV Health system, not hospitalists or ER physicians. Their offer is hardly "60% less income", actually, it is just a shade under the national average for primary care (including both FPs and internists). So, if you are just finishing a family practice residency in Mississippi, it's a pretty good offer. If you are a board certified internist with 30 years of clinical, administrative and teaching experience, it's not so good. If you are a FMG who desperately needs any job just to maintain a J-1 visa and stay in the country, anything is a good offer. The lifestyle advantage is pretty good---40 hrs. a week office work, minimal call responsibility, 4 weeks vacation plus CME, malpractice and health insurance paid.

I don't know what they are offering hospitalists, but very likely around the national average as well. The ER docs are employed by an outside group, so that's a different situation.

From what I observed, the problem in the ER would seem to be less related to the number of physicians, but the pace at which they and the staff work, as well as how quickly the floors clear rooms and accept new patients. Seasonal influx plays a role, but I've worked in ERs a lot busier than this with nowhere near the waiting times that patients are reporting
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Am I the only one not happy with this news?
Another 20,000 homes?

Imagine the traffic, the restaurants and stores, etc. that will turn into feeling like snow bird season all year round.

This has happened to me in N.J. & Tampa - I moved into a quieter place and they built it up until the quality of life wasn't there anymore.

Of course The Villages doing the expansion I know it will be a total class act.
But that is a huge increase in the area!
Read the replaced article. It's all back to the previously announced 14,000 including Fenney. It's not an additional 20k. Someone got their math wrong.
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As for thinking having to sell your house will be your KIDS problem, not yours, you shouldn't count on that.

You don't know if you will need to sell for various reasons,
Including needing assisted living.

More homes, more competition.
And new homes will be more attractive to a lot of people.

I always feel location, location, location but a lot don't.

I'm just saying......
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