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Fortunately, the golf courses are designed as flood plains of last resort so developing the land would be problematic.
I'm actually pretty familiar with (and impressed) on how TV is designed, from a flood control/drainage perspective. There are some things they could do though, that would allow them to develop additional homesites, should they decide to eliminate some golf holes. It's pretty obvious, that they have a very competent civil engineering division, so it wouldn't be all that hard to develop more buildable land - after removing portions of golf courses.
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FYI, there are apartments in the villages
Yeah, but not cheap and not subsidized.
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I'm actually pretty familiar with (and impressed) on how TV is designed, from a flood control/drainage perspective. There are some things they could do though, that would allow them to develop additional homesites, should they decide to eliminate some golf holes. It's pretty obvious, that they have a very competent civil engineering division, so it wouldn't be all that hard to develop more buildable land - after removing portions of golf courses.
They are not, have no plans to reduce golf in any way, but they are ADDING many more courses!
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They are not, have no plans to reduce golf in any way, but they are ADDING many more courses!
"They are not, have no plans to reduce golf in any way,"

I guess my response would be - how do you know? Since our first stay about 6 years ago, there weren't even rumors of them going so far south either. In fact, I recall a number of threads talking about the short time between announcing jumping the toll road and the time it took them to start scraping dirt and putting in utilities down there.




"but they are ADDING many more courses!"

Again, there are lots of posts on TOTV pointing out how the actual number of golf holes, per resident/rooftop, has dropped in the last few years. In high demand areas anywhere, land will always be more valuable as homesites - than as golf holes. BUT, I hope you're correct.
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Moving to TV soon. Was not happy to hear about apartments where some people can’t appreciate the value of owning a home. So happy to hear thi news!!!
There are many things that go into renting an apartment beyond your narrow idea of owning.
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Just a suggestion. Being a golfer and pickleball enthusiast, and living in this “North Villages”area I believe there are plenty of pickleball courts in the area surrounding Hacienda. Instead of the PB courts possibly a pool/eatery situation similar to Lopez would offer a place for golfers to stop after a round, and the pool goers also to enjoy. Plenty of full service restaurants nearby for the Villa dwellers to get to easily. Don’t know of any “Championship” Villages course that doesn’t offer an on site spot for at least a lunch or drink. Just a suggestion.
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Just a suggestion. Being a golfer and pickleball enthusiast, and living in this “North Villages”area I believe there are plenty of pickleball courts in the area surrounding Hacienda. Instead of the PB courts possibly a pool/eatery situation similar to Lopez would offer a place for golfers to stop after a round, and the pool goers also to enjoy. Plenty of full service restaurants nearby for the Villa dwellers to get to easily. Don’t know of any “Championship” Villages course that doesn’t offer an on site spot for at least a lunch or drink. Just a suggestion.
Memory refresher - a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar is what the developer demolished at Hacienda. Let's see at Lopez there is a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar - correct ? I just found the next villa neighborhood.
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Memory refresher - a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar is what the developer demolished at Hacienda. Let's see at Lopez there is a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar - correct ? I just found the next villa neighborhood.
Not suggesting a restaurant, just a place by the pool for a burger and a beer. Pickleball there really isn’t needed, and it will be extremely noisy near the pool area.
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There is no shame for making money. Why the hostility? We have found the Morse Family to be fair and hard working and not at all show offey. Everyone needs to go to the State of the Villages meeting, when this Pandemic is over. It is once a year, at the Sharon, the tickets are free, but you must get one, and the Morse siblings and their children talk to the assembled crowd. They are good people and do not show off. They sell houses, and they have done a WONDERFUL JOB here.
Educate me, please. Doesn't one have to be a member of the Villages Homeowners group (or the other one) to attend? And, if one gets in, can owners ask questions? If not, it's a performance and not a feedback opportunity.
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Memory refresher - a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar is what the developer demolished at Hacienda. Let's see at Lopez there is a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar - correct ? I just found the next villa neighborhood.
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Educate me, please. Doesn't one have to be a member of the Villages Homeowners group (or the other one) to attend? And, if one gets in, can owners ask questions? If not, it's a performance and not a feedback opportunity.
It was never a feedback opportunity, besides if it was would soon turn into bitching session.
If it is a performance….so be it. Attendance is optional.
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There is no shame for making money. Why the hostility? We have found the Morse Family to be fair and hard working and not at all show offey. Everyone needs to go to the State of the Villages meeting, when this Pandemic is over. It is once a year, at the Sharon, the tickets are free, but you must get one, and the Morse siblings and their children talk to the assembled crowd. They are good people and do not show off. They sell houses, and they have done a WONDERFUL JOB here.
I couldn't agree with you more, we have been here 16 years and couldn't be happier with our choice (and glad we bought when we did). Thanks, Gracie
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"They are not, have no plans to reduce golf in any way,"

I guess my response would be - how do you know? Since our first stay about 6 years ago, there weren't even rumors of them going so far south either. In fact, I recall a number of threads talking about the short time between announcing jumping the toll road and the time it took them to start scraping dirt and putting in utilities down there.




"but they are ADDING many more courses!"

Again, there are lots of posts on TOTV pointing out how the actual number of golf holes, per resident/rooftop, has dropped in the last few years. In high demand areas anywhere, land will always be more valuable as homesites - than as golf holes. BUT, I hope you're correct.
I know because I stay up to date with the Villages news letters and the Daily Sun. New 18 hole course opening this fall. Plus 4 more Championship courses already planned. GOLF IS EXPANDING in the villages.
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Memory refresher - a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar is what the developer demolished at Hacienda. Let's see at Lopez there is a restaurant, a swimming pool, and a tiki bar - correct ? I just found the next villa neighborhood.
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