[MikeVillages]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.
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Master Bedroom is not an option in the floor plan of the iRobot app. However you are allowed to use custom names so we named the master bedroom, Master Bedroom.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

They also removed all the covered wagons as to not upset anyone. They were such a neat thing to see representing settlers coming here. Must have offended the woke. WOKE: Political correctness killing history and the future.

[remarks006]

What a sad statement you make. People who fear change and fight it are the reason women could not get a credit card until the 1970’s without a husband’s permission. Yea,,, you read that right. Change helps us grow. Education helps us understand why we need to evolve. I suggest a dose of both so you too , can become a better, more aware human being.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

I'm not sure whether it's more funny or concerning that someone cares so much about what it's called. They mean the same thing. They used to refer to pants as trousers and I don't think that was because of some woke agenda 40 years ago.

This is getting out of hand with people labelling a minor incremental change as "woke".

It's not the change (like trousers to pants)...

It's WHY they keep making these ridiculous changes...

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

I like to think that there are many people who missed the the point of AB , it allows me to inflate my self image, I will not call someone who is not a citizen of our country an alien, who entered illegally an illegal alien, but a migrant so I can distance myself from from the practical and legal ramifications and and feel noble and generous

Odd, how the actual migrants feel about this.

My wife is a Migrant. In the traditional sense. She was born and raised in Thailand, coming to America as an adult through the FRONT door: Proper applications made out and submitted, various interviews, etc. etc. She still recalls the day she took the oath of allegiance to America (yes, there is one) that legal migrants swear, as one of the proudest days of her life. Here it is, below:

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom
or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
...that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of
America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
...that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
...that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;
...that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States
when required by the law;
...that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when
required by the law; and
...that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; so help me God.”

Guess how LEGAL migrants to America feel about the illegals--the people who sneak, slither and crawl in while people like my wife work their posteriors off making sure that all the "i"s are dotted and "t"s are crossed, so that they can stand proudly before their new countrymen as new citizens--equals. Probably don't have to think too hard on this one. Almost to a person, the illegals are detested by the LEGALS. They see the illegals as short-circuiting a system that they endured proudly in order to become an American. Additionally they see the illegals (correctly, in my opinion) as giving ALL migrants to the United States, legal or not, a bad name.

Another standard of comparison. My wife grew up dirt-poor in Thailand, rejected by her mother, raised by her grandmother and aunt. Even as a young child she had to wake up at 3 AM every day to help prepare the food for sale that was their small family's only source of income. Following that, she went to school. School kids in Thailand wear uniforms and she had only one, which she'd wash at night and hope it would dry by morning. If not, she wore it damp. Often she could not afford lunch so to avoid embarrassment she'd go study in the library while the other students ate. She had to fight to remain in school beyond the fourth grade, but she persevered. Going into high school meant extra expenses, so at age 13 she took a job tying structural steel at construction sites during the summer. Ever tied structural steel? Ever been in Thailand in the summer? I've done both, and believe me the heat in Thailand in the summer makes the hottest summer day in TV feel like a balmy early spring day. But that was then. Today, my wife can look back on a life and career in America where she earned two University degrees as well as a theology degree. She is not only bilingual but biliterate as well, formerly very active in American politics not only at the grassroots level but as a state-level delegate, active in her community and church, well-liked and greatly respected. Her business (marketing) degree meant an income that in later years anyway exceeded mine, and her business sense means that we together have a VERY comfortable retirement. My wife in many respects is the ideal; the kind of migrant we SHOULD be seeking, instead of acquiescing to the hordes oozing into America; people whose idea of a "career" in all too many cases, means slurping at the public trough.

So yes. My wife (and even more so, myself) both resent the hell out of the so-called "woke" people who make every attempt to hide reality by cute euphemisms and dancing around the truth, congratulating themselves all the while about how wise and far-seeing they are. Hiding from reality, be it by euphemisms or whatever, only exacerbates the problem, and I doubt that very many people really understand just what a huge problem ILLEGAL immigration is in America today.

[Beyond The Wall]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

Real estate across the country have made this type of change, not just TV. I still use words from my youth, to the cringing of those around me. I don’t mean to upset anyone but it happens. Language changes. There are other things to get upset about. Have anyone seen the new Disney cartoon?

[MrFlorida]

Next your " Living Room " will be renamed, because it offends the dead.....

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"It is infuriating to see our history being erased."


What history is being "erased" and how is it supposedly being done? Refusing to glorify the ugly parts of our country's history (treason from some states and those who led it) with monuments/statues/plaques/etc., is far from erasing history and is in fact simply shining a bright light on it - so that we can learn and not repeat those abhorrent mistakes.

Book banning and the refusal to discuss real race history, are much more of a threat to this country ever reaching its full potential and promise of equality.

Good thing that's not being done, either...

What you call "book banning" is making sure YOUNG CHILDREN are not exposed to hyper-sexualized books.

The real problem for so many, is that factual history is being revealed/disseminated to more and more people and that is outrageous to them. For instance, how many had been taught, or knew, of the Tulsa Race Massacre - until recent years?

I did. As did most anyone who paid attention in history class...

Be assured, that the outrage of changing the name of the largest bedroom in a house to 'owner's suite/primary bedroom' is not a coincidence that it's coming from whites - who would have been historically considered...'The Master's.'

Your attempt to call those disagree with the constant barrage from the "language police" as outraged (which is ridiculous) and as racists is noted.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by remarks006

What a sad statement you make. People who fear change and fight it are the reason women could not get a credit card until the 1970’s without a husband’s permission. Yea,,, you read that right. Change helps us grow. Education helps us understand why we need to evolve. I suggest a dose of both so you too , can become a better, more aware human being.

Yes, it's the exact same thing... Said no one ever who possessed a functioning cerebral cortex...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Odd, how the actual migrants feel about this.

My wife is a Migrant. In the traditional sense. She was born and raised in Thailand, coming to America as an adult through the FRONT door: Proper applications made out and submitted, various interviews, etc. etc. She still recalls the day she took the oath of allegiance to America (yes, there is one) that legal migrants swear, as one of the proudest days of her life. Here it is, below:

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom
or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
...that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of
America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
...that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
...that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;
...that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States
when required by the law;
...that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when
required by the law; and
...that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; so help me God.”

Guess how LEGAL migrants to America feel about the illegals--the people who sneak, slither and crawl in while people like my wife work their posteriors off making sure that all the "i"s are dotted and "t"s are crossed, so that they can stand proudly before their new countrymen as new citizens--equals. Probably don't have to think too hard on this one. Almost to a person, the illegals are detested by the LEGALS. They see the illegals as short-circuiting a system that they endured proudly in order to become an American. Additionally they see the illegals (correctly, in my opinion) as giving ALL migrants to the United States, legal or not, a bad name.

Another standard of comparison. My wife grew up dirt-poor in Thailand, rejected by her mother, raised by her grandmother and aunt. Even as a young child she had to wake up at 3 AM every day to help prepare the food for sale that was their small family's only source of income. Following that, she went to school. School kids in Thailand wear uniforms and she had only one, which she'd wash at night and hope it would dry by morning. If not, she wore it damp. Often she could not afford lunch so to avoid embarrassment she'd go study in the library while the other students ate. She had to fight to remain in school beyond the fourth grade, but she persevered. Going into high school meant extra expenses, so at age 13 she took a job tying structural steel at construction sites during the summer. Ever tied structural steel? Ever been in Thailand in the summer? I've done both, and believe me the heat in Thailand in the summer makes the hottest summer day in TV feel like a balmy early spring day. But that was then. Today, my wife can look back on a life and career in America where she earned two University degrees as well as a theology degree. She is not only bilingual but biliterate as well, formerly very active in American politics not only at the grassroots level but as a state-level delegate, active in her community and church, well-liked and greatly respected. Her business (marketing) degree meant an income that in later years anyway exceeded mine, and her business sense means that we together have a VERY comfortable retirement. My wife in many respects is the ideal; the kind of migrant we SHOULD be seeking, instead of acquiescing to the hordes oozing into America; people whose idea of a "career" in all too many cases, means slurping at the public trough.

So yes. My wife (and even more so, myself) both resent the hell out of the so-called "woke" people who make every attempt to hide reality by cute euphemisms and dancing around the truth, congratulating themselves all the while about how wise and far-seeing they are. Hiding from reality, be it by euphemisms or whatever, only exacerbates the problem, and I doubt that very many people really understand just what a huge problem ILLEGAL immigration is in America today.

[JGibson]

Originally Posted by tvbound

"It is infuriating to see our history being erased."


What history is being "erased" and how is it supposedly being done? Refusing to glorify the ugly parts of our country's history (treason from some states and those who led it) with monuments/statues/plaques/etc., is far from erasing history and is in fact simply shining a bright light on it - so that we can learn and not repeat those abhorrent mistakes.

Book banning and the refusal to discuss real race history, are much more of a threat to this country ever reaching its full potential and promise of equality.

The real problem for so many, is that factual history is being revealed/disseminated to more and more people and that is outrageous to them. For instance, how many had been taught, or knew, of the Tulsa Race Massacre - until recent years?

Be assured, that the outrage of changing the name of the largest bedroom in a house to 'owner's suite/primary bedroom' is not a coincidence that it's coming from whites - who would have been historically considered...'The Master's.'

American schools are ranked 38th in math in the world but surely we should spend more time in class talking about ugly history that can be Googled at any time someone is interested in it.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall

Real estate across the country have made this type of change, not just TV. I still use words from my youth, to the cringing of those around me. I don’t mean to upset anyone but it happens. Language changes. There are other things to get upset about. Have anyone seen the new Disney cartoon?

No one said it was only happening in TV...

And yes, I've seen parts of the new Disney cartoon... What in the actual ****???

[Djean1981]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Language evolves. Old terms and phrases go away in favor of something else. No one says "twenty three skidoo" or "outa sight" anymore. No big deal.

Language does evolve. But, many of the more recent changes are because some are hyper offended, or pretend to be. I don't believe that "master" bedroom truly offends anyone. The current use just indicates the larger bedroom. The term "master" is also like "Sir" or young man in some countries. The change is more virtue signaling than natural/true language evolution.

[Bay Kid]

People are so easily offended. Different meanings for different people, but not anymore. We must now adjust to the offended.

[Bertram00]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Whining about this is simply another example, of those who weren't smart enough to know that Archie Bunker was meant to be a caricature of an abhorrent human being...not a role model. lol

Except, unlike the people you refer to, Archie did, in his own small ways, evolve.