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Not the question I was asking. What is the process to include this new CDD into the other Village CDDs? Do the established CDD districts vote on letting this new CDD become a part of the District government? Becoming part of the Villages District government then automatically lets the home owners of that new CDD use all of the Village amenities. That is my question?


No. NO. No they don't. After several years living here and seeing how things work, how problems are solved, fences are fixed, things are painted, bushes are trimmed, trash is removed, the confidence in the family and their decisions steadily grows. I am a huge fan of Capitalism when it works the way The Villages does.
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If you really want to know, today, call a member of the Board of Supervisors for your CDD. If I had to guess on the exact mechanics, I would say that the CDD application stated that the new CDD is tied together with the other CDDs in terms of sharing amenities and management resources. The CDD application is made by the Developer. CDDs are limitied in terms of maximum size, which is why you see multiple CDDs. There is an administrator over all 14 of the CDDs that make up The Villages - her name is Janet Tutt.

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Not the question I was asking. What is the process to include this new CDD into the other Village CDDs? Do the established CDD districts vote on letting this new CDD become a part of the District government? Becoming part of the Villages District government then automatically lets the home owners of that new CDD use all of the Village amenities. That is my question?

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IIRC, overall control of TV resides with the central districts, VCCDD and LSCDD. The residential CDDs have some control over their specific district, but it is not absolute. Regarding the amenities, the central districts have control/ownership as well, although they have created the AAC which controls the funds from the settlement of the lawsuit and works with the central district to develop, repair and maintain amenities within CDDs 1-4. That is why a residential CDD has no power to restrict amenities within its boundaries to residents of that CDD.

The overall control by the central districts was a major point with the IRS regarding the use of tax-free bonds. Since only landowners can vote within the CDD, and since the developer was the only landowner in the central districts, the IRS claimed there was no path for residents to get control.

It is true that after a certain percentage of homes are sold within a residential CDD, the residents can elect one of their own to the board of that CDD. But residents will never be able to vote for the board of the central CDDs unless the developer chooses to sell the properties therein.
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Lying and saying that they were not going to be building any more homes after Pine Ridge and Osceola Hills.
Where was this said?
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Not the question I was asking. What is the process to include this new CDD into the other Village CDDs? Do the established CDD districts vote on letting this new CDD become a part of the District government? Becoming part of the Villages District government then automatically lets the home owners of that new CDD use all of the Village amenities. That is my question?
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If you really want to know, today, call a member of the Board of Supervisors for your CDD. If I had to guess on the exact mechanics, I would say that the CDD application stated that the new CDD is tied together with the other CDDs in terms of sharing amenities and management resources. The CDD application is made by the Developer. CDDs are limitied in terms of maximum size, which is why you see multiple CDDs. There is an administrator over all 14 of the CDDs that make up The Villages - her name is Janet Tutt.
tuccillo has give you some good advice. Do you really think anyone on here has an answer to your theoretical question/theoretical ?
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I see a tunnel coming under 44.
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Well, the Pine Hills house's were supposed to start at 500K, that didn't happen either.
That's what I was told. I have always thought, location, location, location. I bought a short walk away from Brownwood. The location rule does not seem to work here. Would you agree?
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I don't think the Village of Fenny is going to impact us much at all. It is just under 5 miles south of Hwy 44. That is quite a hike. I see this Village as being very similar to StoneCrest or Top of The World. It will be developed with the expertise shown in the other villages north of Hwy 44. But I don't think those residents will want to drive 5 miles to go to a rec center, pool or Executive Golf Course. They will be more of a self contained planned community.

The reciprocal use of amenities sounds like it could be a problem. But in reality, if you really give it some thought, people who want the "Full Villages Experience" will not want to buy in a small Village 5 miles away.

Instead they will buy in The Villages north of Hwy 44 so that they can get from point A to point B by golf cart. The people who buy there will be people who want a smaller development like StoneCrest. I don't see how this will affect us in any significant way. Especially since the first homes won't be available for sale for years and years.

It is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

The sales people have not lied to anyone when telling them that Pine Ridge and Osceola Hills are the final phase. They WERE the final phase, until today (past tense). The Sales staff do not know of these decisions until it is released to the public. The Villages has grown step by step over time. At one time Lake Sumter was THE final phase. But The Villages has been expanded over time, with the growth controlled and well planned. The MultiModal paths south of 466 are an improvement over the ones north of 466. As they have had feedback and watched the results of their development, they have made the changes and improvements we all enjoy and benefit from.

Those who worry about this small development which won't exit for another 8-10 yrs, go ahead and move. But seriously, can you find a better place to live, with the beauty and amenities we have here? The sky is not falling. We all will only benefit from the commercial development that will come to the south end of The Villages.

It is interesting and exciting, but is really won't impact those of us north of 44 much at all.

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I don't think the Village of Fenny is going to impact us much at all. It is just under 5 miles south of Hwy 44. That is quite a hike. I see this Village as being very similar to StoneCrest or Top of The World. It will be developed with the expertise shown in the other villages north of Hwy 44. But I don't think those residents will want to drive 5 miles to go to a rec center, pool or Executive Golf Course. They will be more of a self contained planned community.

The reciprocal use of amenities sounds like it could be a problem. But in reality, if you really give it some thought, people who want the "Full Villages Experience" will not want to buy in a small Village 5 miles away.

Instead they will buy in The Villages north of Hwy 44 so that they can get from point A to point B by golf cart. The people who buy there will be people who want a smaller development like StoneCrest. I don't see how this will affect us in any significant way. Especially since the first homes won't be available for sale for years and years.

It is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

The sales people have not lied to anyone when telling them that Pine Ridge and Osceola Hills are the final phase. They WERE the final phase, until today (past tense). The Sales staff do not know of these decisions until it is released to the public. The Villages has grown step by step over time. At one time Lake Sumter was THE final phase. But The Villages has been expanded over time, with the growth controlled and well planned. The MultiModal paths south of 466 are an improvement over the ones north of 466. As they have had feedback and watched the results of their development, they have made the changes and improvements we all enjoy and benefit from.

Those who worry about this small development which won't exit for another 8-10 yrs, go ahead and move. But seriously, can you find a better place to live, with the beauty and amenities we have here? The sky is not falling. We all will only benefit from the commercial development that will come to the south end of The Villages.

It is interesting and exciting, but is really won't impact those of us north of 44 much at all.
We don't like going anywhere anymore that we need the car. A golf cart is a major part of the Village experience. The saying is If you build it, they will come.......They just won't come here.....after the newness wears off.
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That's what I was told. I have always thought, location, location, location. I bought a short walk away from Brownwood. The location rule does not seem to work here. Would you agree?


I do think location works here, not insomuch as proximity to any particular amenity, but to privacy. Privacy brings a very large premium here, more I think then any place I have ever lived.
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Question, how often do you use your car to drive out of the bubble? This development would be a drive for either party. I can see them coming up to use golf and resturants, but for us to drive down to use the new facilities would be minimal. Unless there is an unbelievable golf course that you just have to play. Like the new family section, it's a hike, not golf cart usable. We might go out of the bubble once a month or so.
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The way I read the article yesterday, they may or may not build more golf courses. Assuming they don't, that would be a potential 6,000 more people using the existing courses. If they don't include golf in the new development, it will be as much fun to get a t-time in July as it is in February. Maybe it's time for some organized push-back from inside ????
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The way I read the article yesterday, they may or may not build more golf courses. Assuming they don't, that would be a potential 6,000 more people using the existing courses. If they don't include golf in the new development, it will be as much fun to get a t-time in July as it is in February. Maybe it's time for some organized push-back from inside ????
If they don't put in the golf courses and rec centers then it will not be of TV model will it?

I think being remote those will be very important amenities that will, like all other new villages, be put in first.

No matter how it comes to pass it will have no more or less impact than any of the non villages neighborhoods around us.

And I personally think if the new location is going to have TV flag or water tower over it, it will be in the same model we all enjoy and have come to expect from the developer.
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I don't think the Village of Fenny is going to impact us much at all. It is just under 5 miles south of Hwy 44. That is quite a hike. I see this Village as being very similar to StoneCrest or Top of The World. It will be developed with the expertise shown in the other villages north of Hwy 44. But I don't think those residents will want to drive 5 miles to go to a rec center, pool or Executive Golf Course. They will be more of a self contained planned community.

The reciprocal use of amenities sounds like it could be a problem. But in reality, if you really give it some thought, people who want the "Full Villages Experience" will not want to buy in a small Village 5 miles away.

Instead they will buy in The Villages north of Hwy 44 so that they can get from point A to point B by golf cart. The people who buy there will be people who want a smaller development like StoneCrest. I don't see how this will affect us in any significant way. Especially since the first homes won't be available for sale for years and years.

It is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

The sales people have not lied to anyone when telling them that Pine Ridge and Osceola Hills are the final phase. They WERE the final phase, until today (past tense). The Sales staff do not know of these decisions until it is released to the public. The Villages has grown step by step over time. At one time Lake Sumter was THE final phase. But The Villages has been expanded over time, with the growth controlled and well planned. The MultiModal paths south of 466 are an improvement over the ones north of 466. As they have had feedback and watched the results of their development, they have made the changes and improvements we all enjoy and benefit from.

Those who worry about this small development which won't exit for another 8-10 yrs, go ahead and move. But seriously, can you find a better place to live, with the beauty and amenities we have here? The sky is not falling. We all will only benefit from the commercial development that will come to the south end of The Villages.

It is interesting and exciting, but is really won't impact those of us north of 44 much at all.
WOW! I guess you thought OJ was innocent, too? Do you really think the developer's sales staff isn't trained on what they are to say regarding build out? Do you think this new development project just happened in the last few months? This has probably been known, at least by the inner circle including the head of sales, for years. I'm not saying this new development is bad. It can even be said that it is great. But, come on. How can you state that the developer was planning to stop after Sumter Landing? What happened to this great vision that the Morse family has? That kinda falls apart if they don't know what's coming a couple of years out, don't you think?
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The way I read the article yesterday, they may or may not build more golf courses. Assuming they don't, that would be a potential 6,000 more people using the existing courses. If they don't include golf in the new development, it will be as much fun to get a t-time in July as it is in February. Maybe it's time for some organized push-back from inside ????
They would have to drive up, and rent a cart from a country club. I don't think that will be very common.
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