[calibantwo]

You are right that our number of deaths is low, but what would they have been without social distancing, face masks, expanded medical responses, etc.? The number of deaths could have easily exceeded those flu numbers. Look at Italy, France, China, even Japan. We need to get businesses open as soon as it is safely possible, and everyone wants to get back to normal activities. If we could get our federal government to procure the number and types of testing necessary, we could start returning to normal almost immediately. To ask 50 governors to individually deal with Chinese and European suppliers for tests and testing supplies is absurd. They are bidding against each other and against other countries. The federal government needs to provide what is required for testing. If the political parties would quit worrying about the next election, and start doing their job, we would all get back to normal sooner.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Laker

So the “regular” flu in 1980 killed 80,000 Americans according to the CDC. And this is with 45% of the adult population having been vaccinated. So conservatively 50 million people vaccinated.

Did we shut down the country and destroy millions of people’s lives?

Nope.

With Coronavirus we have ZERO people vaccinated, and so far about 34,000 deaths, which the CDC is trying to inflate by counting people who die at home. If we apply that same logic to the 2018 flu deaths then you would be over 100,000 deaths from the “regular “ flu.

So it looks like we need to shut down the country every year, for at least 2 months, until we are all living in huts, or tents if you’re a camper.

There is a reason the word “sheeple” was invented...

Don't forget two BIG factors in flu deaths/cases: deaths of minors are the only classification required to be reported - deaths of majors are not. The "number of deaths" is estimated by the CDC and results from models. The number of deaths is a fantasy derived from recording ILI (Influenza Like Illnesses), a blanket term that the CDC uses often in their reporting - check it all out at the CDC's web site. At any rate, you've "cracked the code" but, trust me, you'll not open any eyes on this board that aren't already open. If you're not toeing the party line, you're in the camp of the enemy and must be silenced. I do love the term sheeple

NOTE: last post on this thread (for me), so fire away

Fred

[big guy]

Originally Posted by Laker

So the “regular” flu in 1980 killed 80,000 Americans according to the CDC. And this is with 45% of the adult population having been vaccinated. So conservatively 50 million people vaccinated.

Did we shut down the country and destroy millions of people’s lives?

Nope.

With Coronavirus we have ZERO people vaccinated, and so far about 34,000 deaths, which the CDC is trying to inflate by counting people who die at home. If we apply that same logic to the 2018 flu deaths then you would be over 100,000 deaths from the “regular “ flu.

So it looks like we need to shut down the country every year, for at least 2 months, until we are all living in huts, or tents if you’re a camper.

There is a reason the word “sheeple” was invented...

This post isn't worth the space that it takes.

[Akmoorfamily]

The number of deaths is now 46,500. You fail to mention this happened in about 7 weeks. Also that the curve was going up parabolic until the social distancing and the Draconian measures of economy shut down were put in place. Nobody likes the shut down but don't kid yourself. This had the potential to kill many many more had steps not been taken. Sheeple could be folks following bad information without thinking.

[sallybowron]

Originally Posted by Laker

So the “regular” flu in 1980 killed 80,000 Americans according to the CDC. And this is with 45% of the adult population having been vaccinated. So conservatively 50 million people vaccinated.

Did we shut down the country and destroy millions of people’s lives?

Nope.

With Coronavirus we have ZERO people vaccinated, and so far about 34,000 deaths, which the CDC is trying to inflate by counting people who die at home. If we apply that same logic to the 2018 flu deaths then you would be over 100,000 deaths from the “regular “ flu.

So it looks like we need to shut down the country every year, for at least 2 months, until we are all living in huts, or tents if you’re a camper.

There is a reason the word “sheeple” was invented...

Why would we not include people who die at home. They still died! How can you apply the same stats to the regular flu when 45% of the people got the vaccine. That vaccine probably kept many of them safe, no vaccine will not.

[Nordhagen]

The death rate is only 1.2-1.4% Of those testing positive.
We are destroying our country needlessly. Bury the dead, treat the sick, and let everyone else go back to work

[wisbad1]

Originally Posted by Laker

So the “regular” flu in 1980 killed 80,000 Americans according to the CDC. And this is with 45% of the adult population having been vaccinated. So conservatively 50 million people vaccinated.

Did we shut down the country and destroy millions of people’s lives?

Nope.

With Coronavirus we have ZERO people vaccinated, and so far about 34,000 deaths, which the CDC is trying to inflate by counting people who die at home. If we apply that same logic to the 2018 flu deaths then you would be over 100,000 deaths from the “regular “ flu.

So it looks like we need to shut down the country every year, for at least 2 months, until we are all living in huts, or tents if you’re a camper.

There is a reason the word “sheeple” was invented...

Different, people are dying in shorter time frame.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by JGVillages

The difference is there was a vaccine in 1980. There is none yet so without the extreme measures in place the death toll would likely (per medical experts) be in the millions while waiting for a CV vaccine. It’s a tough decision but how do you balance an extreme number of deaths to minimize the economic fallout when it has never been done before? They are trying. It’s easy to arm chair quarterback the first half of the game at halftime.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how many times your argument is pointed out; some people will just ignore it. Some people ignore any facts that are inconvenient to their opinion.

[graciegirl]

This is what I consider to be truthful and valid information;


Misinformation goes Viral - The Startup - Medium

[Lottoguy]

You do realize that was over the course of one year and not six weeks? Stop watching FOX and think for yourself.

[Lottoguy]

Geeeee I wonder where he is getting his crazy info/wars from?

[carlanddiane]

Originally Posted by Akmoorfamily

The number of deaths is now 46,500. You fail to mention this happened in about 7 weeks. Also that the curve was going up parabolic until the social distancing and the Draconian measures of economy shut down were put in place. Nobody likes the shut down but don't kid yourself. This had the potential to kill many many more had steps not been taken. Sheeple could be folks following bad information without thinking.

please stop using logic, people might get angry

[mjpuleo]

you really don't have a clue--if you can't take staying in your home, then do what you want to do or stay home and take a pill to fall asleep. let's be sensible here.

[mjpuleo]

logic---no one was prepared for this and no one has a definite answer what to do--our President and our Governor are not miracle workers and these protesters should all be put in jail--do you have a solution smarty pants???

[Trophy25]

Why is always some AH who has a need to make everything political.