[mjpuleo]

because they are AHs!!!

[mjpuleo]

ignorance is bliss

[Trophy25]

Slight correction. Many deaths are being counted as Covid-19 deaths on a presumption not testing. A person could die as a result of a heart attack and be classified as a Covid-19 death.

[Trophy25]

Keep your politi s off this board

[croughwell]

Reliable research goes a long way!

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by Laker

So the “regular” flu in 1980 killed 80,000 Americans according to the CDC. And this is with 45% of the adult population having been vaccinated. So conservatively 50 million people vaccinated.

Did we shut down the country and destroy millions of people’s lives?

Nope.

With Coronavirus we have ZERO people vaccinated, and so far about 34,000 deaths, which the CDC is trying to inflate by counting people who die at home. If we apply that same logic to the 2018 flu deaths then you would be over 100,000 deaths from the “regular “ flu.

So it looks like we need to shut down the country every year, for at least 2 months, until we are all living in huts, or tents if you’re a camper.

There is a reason the word “sheeple” was invented...

China, Russia and others are taking notes. Every single comment made on Social Media about how fearful people have become and how easy it was to manipulate an entire population is being recorded somewhere. It is their new secret weapon since they realize they cannot conquer us militarily any longer. Easier to destroy us from within with a few graphs and models no one even questioned but have now been proven to be horribly wrong. Encouraging Americans to report each other Commie Style to the “authorities” who have illegally defied the Constitution while shutting down the Court system so there is no immediate redress or due process available and then letting real convicted criminals out of jail. How gullible we have become! While we are self absorbed and fearfully occupieod with the virus they are laughing because we still do not see the real weapon.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by doctorknow

Amen Brother, this is a good example of the media hype that can create fear and panic. This is a mutation of the "SARS" flu which occurred a few years ago. One might become a conspiracy buff if this type of planning keeps up. I wonder why dying from corona virus is different then dying from the common flu or even the H1 N1 which was thought to be viralent a few years ago. Dead is dead, but the reaction to this pandemic seems to be over the top.

If you still believe this, despite all the information about the severity of the effects of this virus as compared to the seasonal flu, please read post #42 in this thread. Even though CarrieOn is referring to survivors of COVID-19, it should give you a little insight into the differences. There is also much, much more data about the permanent physical damage done, average time spent in ICU and/or on a ventilator, cost of care, etc. Maybe you could have self-educated a little more prior to your post.

[roscoguy]

Originally Posted by Trophy25

A person could die as a result of a heart attack and be classified as a Covid-19 death.

Yeah, they could, IF they met the criteria for a 'probable' COVID-19 death. See one explanation here:

CDC Now Counts ‘Probable’ COVID-19 Cases That Have Not Been Confirmed in Its Tally |

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

China, Russia and others are taking notes. Every single comment made on Social Media about how fearful people have become and how easy it was to manipulate an entire population is being recorded somewhere. It is their new secret weapon since they realize they cannot conquer us militarily any longer. Easier to destroy us from within with a few graphs and models no one even questioned but have now been proven to be horribly wrong. Encouraging Americans to report each other Commie Style to the “authorities” who have illegally defied the Constitution while shutting down the Court system so there is no immediate redress or due process available and then letting real convicted criminals out of jail. How gullible we have become! While we are self absorbed and fearfully occupieod with the virus they are laughing because we still do not see the real weapon.

I don't understand. The people of China were first to battle Covid-19 and the people of Russia are probably as much in the throes of it as we are. This is a VIRUS. As Orange Blossom Baby so aptly described it...When you die of it, you drown in your own body fluids. We don't have a vaccine, nor as yet a treatment that has been proven to help.

I don't understand that you cannot see how dangerous it is. Especially to all people who live here in The Villages. EVERYONE agrees that those over 65 are much more in danger.

I see the real danger here. There is a deadly virus with no cure and people are making it political. Every person I know is very aware of the awful economic disaster this situation has made. THAT is going to get far worse.

There is no one to BLAME. It is a virus that not one soul on the face of the earth had encountered before. It IS awful and it IS scary and no one should take it lightly. It least affects children (it appears) and it seems to affect people of black and brown races worse than Caucasions. That is not racist or mean. That is the way it looks now.

I don't want to see anyone die who can do anything they can to prevent it. I don't think our deaths are predestined. I don't think we need to get out and mingle if we are Villager age.

I don't think of it as a WEAPON and I don't think it is HYPE.

[Knighterrant]

The article that references 80k flu related deaths in 1980 was an estimate by an individual at the time the article was written. There is another article online that references 52k flu related deaths for the same year. The number of reported flu related deaths in 1980 were lower than 80k (check the CDC). The number of actual flu deaths in any given year is unknown (death certificates don’t always identify the underlying cause of a death). Which is why the CDC utilizes modeling to estimate a death range for the flu in any given year.

That is why the mortality rate, versus actual deaths, is important when considering a threat. 9 people dying from a virus might sound insignificant. However, that same number is much more significant if only 10 people were exposed to a virus in an isolated environment and 9 people died (90% mortality rate).

The mortality rate for the flu is roughly .1% in any given year. The mortality rate for COVID 19 in the US (with one of the best healthcare systems in the world) is roughly 5%. COVID 19 has a mortality rate 50 times greater than the flu. And the hospitalization rate for COVID 19 versus the flu is even worse.

The worst version of Small Pox has a mortality rate of 30%. So Small Pox is 6 times deadlier than COVID 19, and COVID 19 is 50 time deadlier than the flu. Another similarity for COVID 19 versus Small Pox is that we no longer has a stock pile of Small Pox vaccine, and we have no vaccine for COVID. So why not compare COVID 19 to Small Pox (both are viruses)?

Because the only people who compare COVID 19 to the flu are ignorant people (and Fox News) trying to downplay the issue. There have been days that the death toll in the US from COVID 19 has exceeded 2k people. However, no intelligent people are arguing that 730k people will die from the virus this year.

There were roughly 15 cases of COVID 19 identified in the US in early February (Trump referenced this number with the statement that all were recovering and there would soon be zero cases). There are currently roughly 819k cases in the US with roughly 45k deaths. Less than 3 months later! Those numbers occurred with unprecedented restrictions put in place to help control the spread.

Maybe at some point when the final number of cases are known, the mortality rate will be lower. And at that time, the ignorant people who today compare this to the flu can say they told us so. I hope they can because the alternative sucks. Until then, people can argue that the US over reacted without making ill informed comparisons. I suspect most will probably still sound like idiots though.