[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Peddler3500

That surely does not match the oft-used descriptor of "the friendliest hometown". They need to add some qualifiers such as: money-grubbing; rudest (think of seat saving fiascos at the squares); meanest (think grandfathered bird cage situation, gazing ball in the yard). For me, the jury is still out as to whether this is the place I want to live. There are some nice easy-going people here but a big share of jerks too. The situation with the villages health care is another example of money grubbing attitude. The developer runs this like a fiefdom. Wish I had rented longer before I bought here.

After you have found Eden......please share with us. If you feel as you do now, you will not be happy here if you buy.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I believe that The Villages is some kind of Paradise. I am from Ohio and it was a wonderful place growing up and raising our kids. I would think that most of us have warm feelings about where we are from and probably think that our area is superior by far to most others.

Where are you from GPSMA? Why don't you buy into this "blind belief" that The Villages is a wonderful place?

Malvina Reynolds - Little Boxes (Weeds Theme Song) Full Version with Lyrics - YouTube

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by MarcelDuhamp

If you have lived for over 20 years in the Villages are using a walker or wheel chair been in the hospital 4 times and had 3 operations 2 broken hips and moved into assisted living in the Villages and show up at a recreation center to visit with your long time friends or possibly try to go to club that you have been going to for 15 years in a wheelchair or walker. If you can get wheelchair transport. Well what happens is you are barred from entry to the Recreation center. A person like this can not play golf, swim, play pickle ball, Bocce or just about any thing else. They would consume just about zero of the Villages recreation resources. They would occupy a chair in a room. That is DISGUSTING. How much money does the Villages have to make. You should remember that ever one who lives here is headed for the same situation. In most case this situation will not go on for long because many of these people will not live very long.
So if letting old people in wheelchairs and walkers be in a room in a recreation center with there friends is going to bankrupt the Villages then this is a very different Villages then I know. These people built the Villages and they are the ones who paid for this place.
So when you live in the villages and there is no more money to made from you and they are done with you, you are Expendable. I think that this situation surely earns the Villages the designation as (AS THE FREINDLIST HOME TOWN IN AMERICAN) as long as you are not very old and sick.

Getting back on topic: First, not ALL of the assisted living facilities are on TV property, the one on 466a between Morse and Buena Vista appears to not be on TV property.
After looking at a majority of the posts, there MIGHT be a middle ground, where a resident in an assisted living facility, located within the borders of TV, could purchase some form of a recreational pass. This would probably be a different color, and probably issued or renewed on a monthly basis.
IMHO, this could allow residents in assisted living facilities to be able to use TV 'resident only' facilities. If necessary this could be a limited used type card. I will leave it to the owners, etc., to determine if this type of approach would work, as I do not have access to all of the inner workings of the card reader system, etc.
On a side note it would be nice if this type of system (or something similar) could be implemented, as I suspect most if not all of use will be in this situation eventually.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Malvina Reynolds - Little Boxes (Weeds Theme Song) Full Version with Lyrics - YouTube

15 years ago my dream was to retire to New Hampshire on 20+ acres with many outbuildings & a barn. My first task was to install a post and rail fence around its perimeter. Reality sunk in and I realized all of that requires much back breaking work and maintenance. I'll take my 80 by 100 and live happily ever after with a healthy back. Not to mention warmth !

[OpusX1]

I see two camps on TOTV #1. The people that like TV, move here abide by the rules, even the ones we don't care for.
#2 The people that find fault with everything and think camp 1 people should agree to all their complaints and change what we like for them. We are in camp 1 and if things start to change toward camp 2 we will be outa here. I really don't understand why camp 2 people come here, it's realatively easy to sell your house, make a profit, go where your happy. That's what we did. don't try to change it!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Malvina Reynolds - Little Boxes (Weeds Theme Song) Full Version with Lyrics - YouTube

I think that is a song about middle class conformity.

If we live in boxes made out of ticky tacky, well then,as a group we seem realitively content with them.

Living here was not promised to anyone. We worked and saved and sacrificed to get here. A frequent poster says that is not true. We lived when insurance and benefits were given when you worked he says. It was easier then he says.

In life you have to make choices. You cannot have everything you want.

[stadalberts]

Wow, EXACTLY!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by OpusX1

I see two camps on TOTV #1. The people that like TV, move here abide by the rules, even the ones we don't care for.
#2 The people that find fault with everything and think camp 1 people should agree to all their complaints and change what we like for them. We are in camp 1 and if things start to change toward camp 2 we will be outa here. I really don't understand why camp 2 people come here, it's realatively easy to sell your house, make a profit, go where your happy. That's what we did. don't try to change it!

As with most things in life, it's not that black and white.

There is also a 3rd (call it 'grey') camp.

That would be those of us who moved here and like most things, love the lifestyle and the choices of activities, consider ourselves frogs (here til we croak) BUT...also recognize that not everything is perfect in our opinion.

When we see something that we either don't agree with or think could be better, we voice that opinion.

Sadly and all too often, that 1st camp hears a bugle call, musters the troops and jumps down the throats of the third camp at the mere mention of anything that even hints at criticism...or of something we would like to see differently or a negative that we experienced.

That doesn't mean all will agree on everyone elses opinions, but it is the ability to voice that opinion without being ganged up on, called trolls/whiners/bitter/etc....that should be given a lot more acknowledgment than some in the first camp are want to do.

If someone is perfectly happy with every single aspect of TV and wouldn't change a single thing even if they could...then more power to ya.

But just back off on ganging up on those who may occasionally, and legitimately, voice their own opinions of something that bugs them or that they think could be improved.

After all, each camp is entitled to their own opinions and viewpoints....and no one camp has the right to try and shout down the other.

It's analogous to those who think if you criticize our great nation...then you should move away.

Now how many really ascribe to the idea, that if you criticize this country or its government...you should be made to move to another?

Because if you do, you're hammering the value of my place....because there's gonna be a whole lot of homes glutting the market.

Now, why should TV/TOTV be any different?