[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by jamblu

This is truly incredible. What about the facility you're in? Are there cards/movies or any entertainment for you and your friends to do? Maybe it would be easier to get your facility to do more for the residents and I'm sure you're friends can visit you? I am saddened by the post. I would hope the Villages could create a center for exactly these elders to just enjoy company when they need it most. I'll now think twice about entering an assisted living facility here.

Excellent post!

I think the crux of the developer's rules can be summed up easily, by a posters statement above... "life is cruel."

It's just sad that all too many seem to have that same attitude.

And you are absolutely correct, why shouldn't a former TV homeowner who still lives on the property (albeit in an assisted living environment)...be afforded Grandfather/Grandmother rights to the facilities?

Exactly what/who would that hurt?

The only thing that explains it, is the belief that.... "I got mine, screw you."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore2

Excellent post!

I think the crux of the developer's rules can be summed up easily, by a posters statement above... "life is cruel."

It's just sad that all too many seem to have that same attitude.

And you are absolutely correct, why shouldn't a former TV homeowner who still lives on the property (albeit in an assisted living environment)...be afforded Grandfather/Grandmother rights to the facilities?

Exactly what/who would that hurt?

The only thing that explains it, is the belief that.... "I got mine, screw you."

I don't think a lot of people have the attitude, "I got mine, screw you". I think a lot of people who live here are very realistic about aging and are kind and thoughtful, visiting people who are alone in assisted living as well as volunteering in schools and in food kitchens. A LOT of people. I can name dozens of names of frequent posters on this forum who quietly and without fan fare do the "works of mercy" we were taught to do as children.

I don't think it would hurt to have passes for people who still live close but not on campus who are older and once lived here, or wait, should we do that for all folks who are older who live closeby, how old should they be, should they be in a wheel chair or ambulatory, when is old, old enough, when is old too old. This is gonna get kinda challenging to do this good thing. Then there will be people complaining about having to be around the truly elderly. There are a few who live here who really do not enjoy folks who are older than boomers. Wow. Sometimes you cannot make rules to do good things, sometimes you just have to quietly do good things without rules or anybody noticing.

I am not saying you are wrong Cold, and I feel bad for the OP.

I am a realistic person and a little too proud for my own good as are many who post on here.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't think a lot of people have the attitude, "I got mine, screw you". I think a lot of people who live here are very realistic about aging and are kind and thoughtful, visiting people who are alone in assisted living as well as volunteering in schools and in food kitchens. A LOT of people. I can name dozens of names of frequent posters on this forum who quietly and without fan fare do the "works of mercy" we were taught to do as children.

I don't think it would hurt to have passes for people who still live close but not on campus who are older and once lived here, or wait, should we do that for all folks who are older who live closeby, how old should they be, should they be in a wheel chair or ambulatory, when is old, old enough, when is old too old. This is gonna get kinda challenging to do this good thing. Then there will be people complaining about having to be around the truly elderly. There are a few who live here who really do not enjoy folks who are older than boomers. Wow. Sometimes you cannot make rules to do good things, sometimes you just have to quietly do good things without rules or anybody noticing.

I am not saying you are wrong Cold, and I feel bad for the OP.

I am a realistic person and a little too proud for my own good as are many who post on here.

As usual, a very sensible posting.

I believe that the OP should have checked around at assisted living facilities to see which ones included Villages amenities before signing up if that was an important aspect of her life.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

As usual, a very sensible posting.

I believe that the OP should have checked around at assisted living facilities to see which ones included Villages amenities before signing up if that was an important aspect of her life.

...or, is it possible that hers does offer the option (since it is on TV property) and she is simply unaware?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

...or, is it possible that hers does offer the option (since it is on TV property) and she is simply unaware?

It's always nice to hear "the rest of the story"which hasn't been provided on this thread.

[asianthree]

The amenities that were offered to us for a parent were on site indoor swimming pool with classes. Also meals, one story rooms, with housekeeping, and transportation. Their classes, such as drawing, painting and others, although not the amount that we have in the villages are pretty plentiful and the residents have lots of things to do.
But their amenities does not include a resident pass to use at the facilities of the villages. Same for TV residents that we could not go to their assisted living in the villages and use their indoor pool.

As far as just going into a rec center, I have only been stopped once for id. Our oldest has gone into many centers just to look at how much time, effort and thought has been spent on each center, with no issues of having a visitor pass.

[goodtimesintv]

It seems to me that since all of us could face the same situation as the o.p. one day, we could ask as a group that an "Emeritus Resident" ID with privileges limited to one particular rec center (of the person's choice), could be instituted.

Maybe we could set up a simple poll to that effect, with vote for either "Yes" or "No", on here.

[Bogie Shooter]

Just how big is this "problem" that is trying to be solved?

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by jamblu

This is truly incredible...
...I would hope the Villages could create a center for exactly these elders to just enjoy company when they need it most. I'll now think twice about entering an assisted living facility here.

We're not in Kansas anymore.

As well meaning as this idea is, do you really think TV would take on such a project with negative profit margin? TV is a BUSINESS.

Also, See Dotti post #24.

[rubicon]

The OP's situation only acts as one example of what I believe is the underlying concern as to what happens when you start making exceptions to the rules..who gets to chose? what issues warrant exceptions? and once you open the box how do you close it if need be?

Every person who retired and moved here should have given some thought about the future especially making provisions if illness and/or disability struck. I know it permeated all of my decisions about where I bought the size of my house, money set aside to deal with health care aide, no financial debt, etc and yes facing the fact that someday I no longer would be able to enjoy the villages lifestyle, drive a car/cart. some posters say "life is cruel" In my view I believe life just is and I'm not going to waste my energy fighting it but rather to adapt to my new situation

[pauld315]

Originally Posted by dotti105

My mom just moved into Buffalo Crossing ALF off of 466 behind Fresh Market. She moved here from Clearwater Beach. Because this facility is located in The Villages, the residents can get Villages ID cards.
Some of the residents she has met moved into Buffalo Crossings from their homes in TV. They have sold their homes, but still have their IDs because they remain "residents" while in the ALF.

I'm not sure about the ALFs outside TV. I would doubt that they have the same rights.

The OP stated they were in an ALF in The Villages. Perhaps the OP needs to ask the ALF if they qualify to get a Villages ID card.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by pauld315

The OP stated they were in an ALF in The Villages. Perhaps the OP needs to ask the ALF if they qualify to get a Villages ID card.

Yes. See post 34.

[ApplePir2]

Originally Posted by jane032657

Assisted Living communities that are in the boundaries of the Villages pay fees to The Villages so a certain number of residents can use amenities as I understand. They apply to The Villages for these privileges and the cost I am sure is absorbed in the monthly fee that residents who live in the assisted living pay. Very few Assisted Living residents use amenities but I would expect the more independent ones do. The fees are covered by the community itself. Also all Assisted Living communities have buses with lifts that take residents places within a certain distance, if booked in advance.

I agree. If a village resident is unable to live independently and moves to an assisted living residence within The Villages, that person should automatically qualify to receive a Villages ID to use the recreational facilities. Don't people who rent homes in TV get ID's? Not everyone can afford to pay over $250,000 (that was the price 2 years ago) for a small apartment in Freedom Pointe.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by ApplePir2

I agree. If a village resident is unable to live independently and moves to an assisted living residence within The Villages, that person should automatically qualify to receive a Villages ID to use the recreational facilities. Don't people who rent homes in TV get ID's? Not everyone can afford to pay over $250,000 (that was the price 2 years ago) for a small apartment in Freedom Pointe.

....if they pay the $140+ a month amenities fee.

[JWSHORES]

IF you are living in the Assisted Living in The Villages are you not still considered a resident??