[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by mellincf

This is not a Christian country. Christians need a history lesson. This country was founded because Christians were being burned alive BY OTHER CHRISTIANS because they belonged to the wrong denomination of Christianity. Read about the Thirty Years War, Bloody Mary, etc. and realize there is a reason that God is not mentioned in our Constitution, which is by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE, not any religion.

An excellent and intelligent response.


I think the underlying issue comes from those that actually believe this great nation was founded as a 'Christian Nation' and believe that incorrect assumption...allows them the ability to denounce anything that does not fit that illusion or their own bias.

[Boomer]

Never mind. Off topic. I didn't really want to be in this thread anyway.

[Wiotte]

Originally Posted by Mciccolella

No lawn ornaments means no lawn ornaments. That includes anything that is a lawn ornament, religious or not. Simple, very simple. Abide by the restrictions in your district. Follow the rules. The restrictions are not onerous. Keep the anonymous system. I have seen confrontations between neighbors over a stupid ornament and it can divide a neighborhood. What is it that people do not understand about this?

Christians feel they are being persecuted. They feel they're being singled out while others with non religious ornaments are not. If everyone kept personal statements out of sight it would not be an issue.


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[mwann1]

I think put whatever you want as long as it is not overdone but if all must be enforced then all flag pole's ,banners ,ect must go but that is not my belief.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by genobambino

Agree with Rubicon, couldn't have said it better...people buy in here because of the way it looks and then the first thing they want to do is start changing it...It's amazing how people sign contracts and don't read what it says...

Change is good. Too many people stuck in their line dance here....

[biker1]

The flag poles in my area have been approved (at least the ones owned by people I know) and they are presumably not in the same category as yard ornaments, which are specifically disallowed in some deed restrictions.

Originally Posted by mwann1

I think put whatever you want as long as it is not overdone but if all must be enforced then all flag pole's (sic) ,banners ,ect must go but that is not my belief.

[Dennis and Rose]

I disagree. I believe a person has the right to know the identity, of his/her accuser. Cowards who do not identify themselves , become internet tough guys. They can say anything they want with impunity. Besides, I have found differences can be solved over a little coffee and danish

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Dennis and Rose

I disagree. I believe a person has the right to know the identity, of his/her accuser. Cowards who do not identify themselves , become internet tough guys. They can say anything they want with impunity. Besides, I have found differences can be solved over a little coffee and danish

You well may be right. And you could also be wrong. I think it depends on what you expect and have learned to expect where you lived before and THAT is very geographical. I would rather someone report me than be told directly I have bad taste. I would rather report someone anonymously than tell them they aren't doing things according to Hoyle.

Here is the lineup...Two neighbors both from Minnesota...no problem. Two neighbors both from Utah. No problem. One neighbor from Ohio one from The Bronx. You get where I'm going? Some states people teach their children that it is rude to honk your horn at other people.

[bluiiis]

I'm amazed that people have nothing better to do than worry about small crosses.

[CindyNah1]

I life in a "hood" that has lots of crosses. I'm not fond of them. I would not be interested in living in a police state where the villages trolled theyarea looking for violations. I attended a district 3 meeting when I first moved here about 2 yr ago they said they are "complaint driven" meaning if a neighbor objects and they are in violation of a rule, the villages will respond.

I prefer to be peaceful with my neighbors and honor their "right" to display their beliefs, even when I don't share them

LIVE and LET live and let's stop trying to CONTROL others and stick with self management.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by mellincf

This is not a Christian country. Christians need a history lesson. This country was founded because Christians were being burned alive BY OTHER CHRISTIANS because they belonged to the wrong denomination of Christianity. Read about the Thirty Years War, Bloody Mary, etc. and realize there is a reason that God is not mentioned in our Constitution, which is by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE, not any religion.

But God is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.


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[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here is the lineup...Two neighbors both from Minnesota...no problem. Two neighbors both from Utah. No problem. One neighbor from Ohio one from The Bronx. You get where I'm going? Some states people teach their children that it is rude to honk your horn at other people.

Is there something wrong with someone giving a quick toot on the horn to get your attention if they want to wave at you?

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

I think this horse has been beat to death.

Just don't bury it with a white cross on top. (Unless you live in District 2!)

[Gordon82]

Originally Posted by mellincf

This is not a Christian country. Christians need a history lesson. This country was founded because Christians were being burned alive BY OTHER CHRISTIANS because they belonged to the wrong denomination of Christianity. Read about the Thirty Years War, Bloody Mary, etc. and realize there is a reason that God is not mentioned in our Constitution, which is by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE, not any religion.

Other people need a lesson on the Bill of Rights.

I'm all for following the deed restrictions. It protects us all. But certain types of lawn ornaments being singled out because they are religious in nature is not acceptable.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Gordon82

Other people need a lesson on the Bill of Rights.

I'm all for following the deed restrictions. It protects us all. But certain types of lawn ornaments being singled out because they are religious in nature is not acceptable.

I don't think they are being singled out because they are religious in nature. No ornament is allowed unless it is under the eaves or gets permission from ARC. It is a deed restriction and it keeps people from being too...artistic and flamboyant and schlocky.

I am really sorry that this thread started because now I know that many don't have much in the way of tolerance for other's religion. I am sadly surprised. I am always glad to know that people have something to fall back on, a comforting philosophy or faith in difficult times and as we age there are scary and sad times.