[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim

Yes, and everyone should be required to drive the same year and model automobile . Each will also be painted the same bright yellow color . In addition to license plates they will have large numbers painted on the front , rear and sides so that they can be easily identified in the event that the driver somehow offends someone else . Said automobiles will be adjusted so that they may not drive any faster than 30 MPH .

Each New Year`s Day and May Day anyone who wishes may impose a new regulation on the entire population by simply posting it on TOTV . This will ensure that everyone feels " validated " and " empowered " to eliminate any felt " injustice " or simple " irritation ". Perhaps someone who is " energized " by this " enlightened and progressive " approach to self-government might be willing to open a new thread so that we may start a list of the new regulations that will be imposed beginning on 1/1/16 as we have just missed the May-Day " window ".

Oh Oh ---- I'm a little worried about the Health Nuts that want us to eat only weeds and twigs.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

I don't know or care who is in command. TV runs like a well oiled machine and I am a happy camper.

I've read all of the responses and I need to take two aspirin and lie down as my head hurts!

Why mess with something, if it ain't broke.

I don't have aspirin but I have scotch.

[twoplanekid]

Hey, I like the color Yellow. Almost all Piper Cubs are painted Yellow. SO, why not golf carts?

Just kidding. Please

[Bonanza]

For those that say everything here is perfect and that they don't care how things are run TV, that they don't want any changes, that they don't care who is running things, etc., etc., etc. . . . . it's shameful and an embarrassment. How do these people go through life (now) with their head in the sand??

Okay -- my real question is, if TV is a non-profit development, how does TV get around having so much money in the till? By this I mean, well over a million has already be paid out to the attorneys for the bond issue. Money has to be paid out for the tree-o-rama fiasco. Millions will be paid out for the erosion under the bridge deal. And with this all, there will be no special assessment?

So the money is sitting there -- waiting to be used. Personally, with all this money in the reserves (I will call it), why are we not getting a reduction in our monthly fee and when money is needed for an unusual need, we can then be assessed for the specific thing?

[NavyNJ]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

For those that say everything here is perfect and that they don't care how things are run TV, that they don't want any changes, that they don't care who is running things, etc., etc., etc. . . . . it's shameful and an embarrassment. How do these people go through life (now) with their head in the sand??

Okay -- my real question is, if TV is a non-profit development, how does TV get around having so much money in the till? By this I mean, well over a million has already be paid out to the attorneys for the bond issue. Money has to be paid out for the tree-o-rama fiasco. Millions will be paid out for the erosion under the bridge deal. And with this all, there will be no special assessment?

So the money is sitting there -- waiting to be used. Personally, with all this money in the reserves (I will call it), why are we not getting a reduction in our monthly fee and when money is needed for an unusual need, we can then be assessed for the specific thing?

Uhh, I think you're maybe getting some terminology mixed up. Here is what a Non-Profit (or, Not-For-Profit) entity is all about:

Definition: A business organization that serves some public purpose and therefore enjoys special treatment under the law. Nonprofit corporations, contrary to their name, can make a profit but can't be designed primarily for profit-making. .

When it comes to business structure, unlike a for-profit business, a nonprofit may be eligible for certain benefits, such as sales, property and income tax exemptions at the state level. The IRS points out that while most federal tax-exempt organizations are nonprofit organizations, organizing as a nonprofit at the state level doesn't automatically grant you an exemption from federal income tax.

Another major difference between a profit and nonprofit business deals with the treatment of the profits. With a for-profit business, the owners and shareholders generally receive the profits. With a nonprofit, any money that's left after the organization has paid its bills is put back into the organization. Some types of nonprofits can receive contributions that are tax deductible to the individual who contributes to the organization. Keep in mind that nonprofits are organized to provide some benefit to the public.

(Source: Entrepeneur magazine web site)
Hope that helps clear up some of your confusion on all this.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

For those that say everything here is perfect and that they don't care how things are run TV, that they don't want any changes, that they don't care who is running things, etc., etc., etc. . . . . it's shameful and an embarrassment. How do these people go through life (now) with their head in the sand??

Okay -- my real question is, if TV is a non-profit development, how does TV get around having so much money in the till? By this I mean, well over a million has already be paid out to the attorneys for the bond issue. Money has to be paid out for the tree-o-rama fiasco. Millions will be paid out for the erosion under the bridge deal. And with this all, there will be no special assessment?

So the money is sitting there -- waiting to be used. Personally, with all this money in the reserves (I will call it), why are we not getting a reduction in our monthly fee and when money is needed for an unusual need, we can then be assessed for the specific thing?

After all the discussion in this and and other threads, it is shocking that there is so little understanding of how things work. Neither TV nor the Developer are "Non Profit". Capital and other reserves are there for a reason- thank the heavens! It is very unwise to advocate for change until one understands the current situation.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by NavyNJ

Uhh, I think you're maybe getting some terminology mixed up. Here is what a Non-Profit (or, Not-For-Profit) entity is all about:

Definition: A business organization that serves some public purpose and therefore enjoys special treatment under the law. Nonprofit corporations, contrary to their name, can make a profit but can't be designed primarily for profit-making. .

When it comes to business structure, unlike a for-profit business, a nonprofit may be eligible for certain benefits, such as sales, property and income tax exemptions at the state level. The IRS points out that while most federal tax-exempt organizations are nonprofit organizations, organizing as a nonprofit at the state level doesn't automatically grant you an exemption from federal income tax.

Another major difference between a profit and nonprofit business deals with the treatment of the profits. With a for-profit business, the owners and shareholders generally receive the profits. With a nonprofit, any money that's left after the organization has paid its bills is put back into the organization. Some types of nonprofits can receive contributions that are tax deductible to the individual who contributes to the organization. Keep in mind that nonprofits are organized to provide some benefit to the public.

(Source: Entrepeneur magazine web site)
Hope that helps clear up some of your confusion on all this.

Originally Posted by Challenger

After all the discussion in this and and other threads, it is shocking that there is so little understanding of how things work. Neither TV nor the Developer are "Non Profit". Capital and other reserves are there for a reason- thank the heavens! It is very unwise to advocate for change until one understands the current situation.

I try my damndest to understand it all! It is, at best, confusing. I guess I'm too used to PUDs, condo assns., homeowner assns., etc.

Thank you both for your comments!

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by tomwed View Post
Who governs The Villages?
I don't feel like reading everything.
Is there a name or names?

I promise not to ask any questions or make any comments.

Originally Posted by outlaw

You're kidding, right?

Did anyone provide a name or names?
I still don't fel like reading everything.

[Philip Winkler]

If you really want to understand more about the CDD form of government you need to participate in one of these sessions:
Welcome Wednesday - New Meeting Time in May!

Welcome Wednesday was created in November 2014 as a way to give residents the opportunity to learn about ongoing projects, address rumors and have their questions answered by District staff. Now that the program has been in existence for a few months, we have identified improvements based on feedback we received. Beginning in May 2015, we will be meeting each Wednesday at 11:00 a.m. Please join us each Wednesday at 11:00 a.m. at the District office located at 984 Old Mill Run to have the opportunity to hear first-hand about the latest rumors and meet District Board Supervisors from your CDD and others. For additional information, please contact the Customer Service Center at (352) 753-4508 or click on the header of this announcement. If you are unable to attend, we are also posting weekly updates on Village Community Development Districts for your convenience. We look forward to seeing you next Wednesday!

[twoplanekid]

All of the commercial activities in the Villages are controlled by the Developer group as they own the land at the three town squares thus controlling the three commercial CDDs. They also control all construction of new housing and other amenity development that occurs in The Villages. We, as land owners control our property and home adhering to the guidelines/regulations we accepted on purchase. All of the residential CDDs will eventually be governed by a five person board of supervisors for each district elected by the residents. The VCCDD is somewhat of a master CDD with the AAC (Amenity Authority Committee) reporting to them. All of the CDDs share resources and are under the umbrella of the district office with Janet Tutt as the District Manager.

While the Developer group has substantial sway in all aspects of the Villages, I can’t say or see that The Villages has one person in charge as is the case with the President of the United States.

[billethkid]

In one of the earlier posts in this thread the OP stated to enjoy TV and as more people move in things will change.
Please remember all is relative.

When we built our home here the was nothing south of 466 (not 466A).
No arnold Palmer club or golf courses....no Sumter town square.
Population was around 35,000.

Fast forward 10 years later, population 115,000....many more golf courses...TV excedes retail critical mass.....lots of national chains come in.....etc.....etc.

However it was and is managed is more successful than most cities we all came from. The developer and subseqnt organization and structure has served the residents well and of course has become wealthier in the process. That is what it is all about.

We all have more bang for our dollar than most places, with comparable amenities.

My vote would be to not mess with success.
I have been witness to several developements that when the developer finally leaves, the residents take over and try to run things differently. Far too many wind up in failure of raising amenity or resident fees to cover......get ready.....out of control spending, doing too many things that played to the special interest or most vocal groups.

The structure here in TV as has been said is complicated.....but it does work.
Under this structure more than 80% of us residents are happy. Under some other non developer run/supported system that percentage will soon change to something like 20% happy and 80% wishing it was it used to be.

My $3.26 (two cents adjusted for inflation).

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by billethkid

In one of the earlier posts in this thread the OP stated to enjoy TV and as more people move in things will change.
Please remember all is relative.

When we built our home here the was nothing south of 466 (not 466A).
No arnold Palmer club or golf courses....no Sumter town square.
Population was around 35,000.

Fast forward 10 years later, population 115,000....many more golf courses...TV excedes retail critical mass.....lots of national chains come in.....etc.....etc.

However it was and is managed is more successful than most cities we all came from. The developer and subseqnt organization and structure has served the residents well and of course has become wealthier in the process. That is what it is all about.

We all have more bang for our dollar than most places, with comparable amenities.

My vote would be to not mess with success.
I have been witness to several developements that when the developer finally leaves, the residents take over and try to run things differently. Far too many wind up in failure of raising amenity or resident fees to cover......get ready.....out of control spending, doing too many things that played to the special interest or most vocal groups.

The structure here in TV as has been said is complicated.....but it does work.
Under this structure more than 80% of us residents are happy. Under some other non developer run/supported system that percentage will soon change to something like 20% happy and 80% wishing it was it used to be.

My $3.26 (two cents adjusted for inflation).

Well said !!

[twoplanekid]

When I attended the Welcome to The Villages seminar this past winter at the district office, they stressed that the amenities fees were structured in such a manner that all would be ok even if the developer would leave. From what I have read, the governing structure of The Villages has changed since the 90’s because of both court and government actions. I am trying to stay focused on understanding the current governing structure as “The structure here in TV as has been said is complicated”.

I love The Villages, own a home here and want to know more about the governing structure for my own edification and to help others get a clearer picture if they so choose. A rumor many times is born of ignorance.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

When I attended the Welcome to The Villages seminar this past winter at the district office, they stressed that the amenities fees were structured in such a manner that all would be ok even if the developer would leave. From what I have read, the governing structure of The Villages has changed since the 90�s because of both court and government actions. I am trying to stay focused on understanding the current governing structure as �The structure here in TV as has been said is complicated�.

I love The Villages, own a home here and want to know more about the governing structure for my own edification and to help others get a clearer picture if they so choose. A rumor many times is born of ignorance.

At this point in the thread you must relize that TOTV is not the place enhance you edification. A bunch of different opinions (guess's) will not be the facts.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

At this point in the thread you must relize that TOTV is not the place enhance you edification. A bunch of different opinions (guess's) will not be the facts.

Maybe Janet Tutt will write an article on the governance of The Villages for the districtgov.org site that we can post here for all to read. Hint! Hint!