[senior citizen]

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[shcisamax]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

It's true that TOTV primarily attracts newbies and wannabees. Some of the most enthusiastic posts are from people who don't live in TV yet! As a Seasonal Resident, I'm a big fan of TOTV because it helps me "keep in touch" while I'm up north. However I've noticed that people who live here and are less than enthusiastic rarely post, often because they don't want to be told "You're just negative, you must be depressed. There is something wrong with anyone who doesn't enjoy TV". I can see that after a few yeaars, some people find TV artificial and contrived.

Having said that, I LOVE wintering in TV and the wonderful friends we've made since 2007. The Villages is a beautiful (huge) city, and a great retirement community with lots of choices. You can be active, zooming around to golf, zumba classes and pickleball. Or you can stay at home and read and garden and bbq in your lanai. I think some older folks are nervous about moving to TV because they feel there would be too much pressure to be active. And while the younger Villagers are zipping around doing six activites a day, there are many people who lead quiet lives, and fill their time with friends, volunteer work, or church activities.

There is a right answer for each and every one of us. Those who don't choose TV, or who sell and move on, may just prefer a quieter life style with less restrictions. It doesn't mean they "don't get it", or that they are depressed or anti-social.

Very comprehensive understanding of TV. BTW: I just sent you a pm.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by lovesports

Senior Citizen you speak truth.
People who love the Villages- post here.
There is especially one person and others on TOTV who will jump on and argue with anyone who says anything less than glowing about the Villages.

That why people who don"t like it here will not post.

I like it here but it is not for everybody. There are things I don't like and things I do like here.
Next time you come to The Villages, pm me. We (my wife and I) would like to meet you.

Let me see: Would I rather hear that I made a great decision to retire in The Villages or fall into the depressed small group that find fault with everything. I agree with the premise that no place is perfect, but I disagree with dumping on what so many thousands of people have invested the golden years of their life, that being The Villages. My point is some folks will find fault with Heaven itself if they make it there, but when you find fault with so much the journey becomes for difficult to go up rather than down. Do yourself a favor and look for the best and not the worst in things.

[micknjudy]

Originally Posted by LynnDeb

Why are people selling in TV? Is it expensive to live in TV?

We have to move back North to be closer to family because of my husband's failing health. We will pay more for a smaller place; taxes are much higher; utilities have to be higher especially in the Winter and I'm sure our condo fee will be a lot more than our Villages amenity fee. We have been here for 14 years and found The Villages very reasonable especially with all of the amenities. We hate to leave!!

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by micknjudy

We have to move back North to be closer to family because of my husband's failing health. We will pay more for a smaller place; taxes are much higher; utilities have to be higher especially in the Winter and I'm sure our condo fee will be a lot more than our Villages amenity fee. We have been here for 14 years and found The Villages very reasonable especially with all of the amenities. We hate to leave!!

Sorry to hear about your husband's health and having to leave. It is good to have family that loves you to move back closer to though.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Let me see: Would I rather hear that I made a great decision to retire in The Villages or fall into the depressed small group that find fault with everything. I agree with the premise that no place is perfect, but I disagree with dumping on what so many thousands of people have invested the golden years of their life, that being The Villages. My point is some folks will find fault with Heaven itself if they make it there, but when you find fault with so much the journey becomes for difficult to go up rather than down. Do yourself a favor and look for the best and not the worst in things.

You just saved me some keystrokes, G'nut. I couldn't have said it better.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by sdavis44

You just saved me some keystrokes, G'nut. I couldn't have said it better.

I was just thinking this yesterday as we drove past some other retirement communities. About 100,000 people have decided to make the Villages their final home town. What percentage of them can be wrong?

[ugotme]

There will ALWAYS be a certain percentage of discontented people in ANY group. I don't care if they got a house for free "they" would find fault with it and complain.

I started coming on here to gain a perspective of what living in TV would be like.
Yes, I think most people that post here love TV. Because of that I have gotten a better understanding of what I might expect when I visit soon.

But no matter what, we will have to make our own decision and live with it. If we end up saying that we made a mistake (doubt it) then we either accept it or move.

Thanks to all who have provided us with input - good and bad!
Don't worry, I will still be asking more questions.

[mgjim]

Originally Posted by ugotme

There will ALWAYS be a certain percentage of discontented people in ANY group. I don't care if they got a house for free "they" would find fault with it and complain.

I started coming on here to gain a perspective of what living in TV would be like.
Yes, I think most people that post here love TV. Because of that I have gotten a better understanding of what I might expect when I visit soon.

But no matter what, we will have to make our own decision and live with it. If we end up saying that we made a mistake (doubt it) then we either accept it or move.

Thanks to all who have provided us with input - good and bad!
Don't worry, I will still be asking more questions.

Have to agree with you. TOTV is one of many sources I've used to help decide where to retire and it's been good to hear many points of view. Opionions stated here have convinced me that The Villages is much like any community and life anywhere is what you make it.

Anyway, after visiting earlier this fall, I've pretty much decided that there are plenty of very happy people in TV that I'd like to call them my friends and neighbors. Now it's just a matter of selling my home up north.

[Pturner]

Originally Posted by Mack184

Actually it's much truer that either of you think, or want to think.

Why do you ask? OK..you didn't ask but I'll tell you anyway. I've spent decades in the radio business and over the years I have become very skilled at reading monthly & quarterly radio ratings reports. Radio & TV ratings and other polling services use the same method to obtain their results. They sample a small cross-section of a particular universe and then project the responses against the whole of that particular universe. (city, state, nation)For example in our recent election..Most polling companies said that the race would be very close. (It was.) They also said that Pres. Obama would get a 2nd term. (He did.) There were a couple polls that were way out in either direction but they were ultimately discounted and found to be incorrect. Like most things, the answer is found somewhere in the middle.

I came to TOTV quite by accident. I was doing a Google search about something I wanted to know about TV and up popped TOTV. While it did not answer my question, I thought that it would be an interesting place to learn about things & people here. I have mentioned before, but in the interest of full disclosure I will mention it again. We did not come here to retire, (we are still working) but so that my wife could assist her parents as they got older.

While I thought it might be interesting to live in TV my wife hates it. So we would be looking at other communities as well. I came to TOTV as somebody who was somewhat disposed to living here, and was hoping to maybe find some items that might sway my wife's thinking about things. I was NOT a Kool-Aid drinker, so in many ways I needed to be convinced.

Since I have discovered TOTV I had read every single comment on every single thread. There are some who I'm sure think I comment too much, but in truth, I comment very little. After reading all of these threads for a number of months I have used the same method as radio ratings and polling companies do to reach my results.

While it is true that the majority of the 90,000 Villages residents do not actively comment on TOTV, there is indeed a workable cross-section of residents participating here. After doing the reading here is what I have learned from this...

Residing in TV are a majority of smug, self-important people who think that their sewage is scentless because THEY live in TV and YOU do not. There is a very definate pecking order in TV..Those whom you call "Frogs" who live here year-round and the only time they are ever leaving is when the big black station wagon hauls you to the junkyard. Their attitude is that they are FAR superior to everyone else who lives in TV. Then come the "Snowbirds". People who own homes here, but only come during the winter or for vacation periods. As judged by the first group they are OK, but they are definately NOT one of "them". And finally comes those who dare to show up in the winter and pay rent. You despise them. Anything that happens between December & April that disturbs your nirvana can be blamed on them.

Overall the majority of TV residents are a collection of whining, grumbling, kvetching old people who despite having 1800 clubs & activities and 36 or more golf courses, their biggest activity is to complain about virtually everything. You whine about your neighbors who who walk their dogs to the post office boxes because the poor pooch might inconveniently relieve himself along the way. You whine about your neighbors who put some sort of decorative pot or trinket on THEIR garden or front steps. You whine about the possibility of the various unwashed hordes who just might invade your nirvana in Brownwood or other places. Never mind that these are open public places & private businesses. You carefully veil your racism in language which any person with a brain can figure out in seconds. I could write on and on about what I have learned. I have also learned that you have been building lots of churches. Either you're just interested in building buildings or you become deaf once you enter the building.

While TOTV is a place for residents to communicate, it is also a place where people come to LEARN about TV. If you are not already convinced that TV is nirvana or God's Little Green Acre then taking the time to really read this forum will very much likely convince you that it is not.

I came here looking for information and to be convinced. I have come away with the impression that the majority of people (but not all) here are snide, two-faced and whiny.

I have a great deal of admiration for the Morse family. I don't know them, but admire their vision and their hard work to put such a place together. I don't know if they got tired of playing with their Department-56 village under the Christmas tree and decided to build a real one for themselves or what, but they are geniuses. I know that they are very, very careful in their marketing. With that in mind, I'm surprised that they allow TOTV. It does a wonderful job of talking people OUT of coming to TV.

Again..this is what TOTV has taught ME. And speaking only for ME..What I have learned is that TV is a city. Just like any other city. It is not nirvana. While it's a nice place, many cities are nice places and many people like where they live. Heck..even Toldeo was loved by Max Klinger. But the hype of TV being "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" is a lie. When you look at it from a distance it seems unbelieveable, almost fantastic, but up close, the reality is a lot more gritty & not all that pretty.

Reminds me of a wise poem...


THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:
Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried, "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"
The wise man said.

... by Edwin Markham

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Reminds me of a wise poem...


THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:
Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried, "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"
The wise man said.

... by Edwin Markham

wonderful

[shcisamax]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Reminds me of a wise poem...


THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:
Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried, "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"
The wise man said.

... by Edwin Markham

Marvelous PT!

[Rbgold]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Reminds me of a wise poem...


THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:
Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried, "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"
The wise man said.

... by Edwin Markham

And you, PTurner are a wise woman! Thank you for post and your insight.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Rbgold

And you, PTurner are a wise woman! Thank you for post and your insight.

Insightful. Thank you PTurner!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Reminds me of a wise poem...

Originally Posted by Pturner

THE RIGHT KIND OF PEOPLE

Gone is the city, gone the day,
Yet still the story and the meaning stay:
Once where a prophet in the palm shade basked
A traveler chanced at noon to rest his miles.
"What sort of people may they be," he asked,
"In this proud city on the plains o'erspread?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the packman scowled; "why, knaves and fools."
"You'll find the people here the same," the wise man said.

Another stranger in the dusk drew near,
And pausing, cried, "What sort of people here
In your bright city where yon towers arise?"
"Well, friend, what sort of people whence you came?"
"What sort?" the pilgrim smiled,
"Good, true and wise."
"You'll find the people here the same,"

The wise man said.


... by Edwin Markham

I have never changed my opinion of you P from the very first moment I laid eyes on you. You are the smartest and kindest southern belle ever to smile at me.