[sail33or]

Let me get this right.

If you have been given both shots then you are "STILL" afraid if someone else has the 99% survivable flu virus????

[coffeebean]

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[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Mortal1

I haven't gotten it yet. Surprising as that may be it's my business and no one else's. I don't cough or sneeze on anyone else, I wear a mask when required or feel uncomfortable. If a place requires a mask and I don't want to wear or have one then I don't go it.

It's called freedom of choice and since I don't endanger anyone else it's entirely up to me...not social media or any lame news outlet or faucci who has no clue.

Of course you and everyone else in our wonderful country has freedom of choice. If it is your choice not to be vaccinated, so be it. You just may have difficulty in the future with airline travel or getting on a cruise ship just to name a couple of things.

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by sail33or

Let me get this right.

If you have been given both shots then you are "STILL" afraid if someone else has the 99% survivable flu virus????

But,but,but. The good "doctor" says even when vaccinated, you should wear two masks, not one.

[DeanFL]

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MUCH of America will simply wait for Fauci to give the thumbs up/Green Light as to Herd Immunity. He has lost so much credibility in many folks views, including ours. He's still on the 'double-mask' kick. And 6ft distance. And NOT leading a charge to OPEN schools. He's a guest on so many talk shows and Cable networks. Seems to LOVE the adoration and public image. But when the TOUGH questions come up, as in the Senate panel yesterday, he repeats the same old stuff with cautions of 'prepare to wear masks into 2022'. I recall months ago when he stated that we will need 70-75% vaccinated to reach Herd Immunity. If that IS A FACT - we NEVER WILL, as it appears that 40% won't get the shot, for whatever (dumb) reason.

We got our 2 Moderna's, and will still mask-up where needed, follow simple precautions - But we have a life to live, and have travel planned within the USA mid-year, and will certainly cruise early 2022. The threats of "Severe Covid Speader events" - when they really don't happen is getting old. And the White House statement that we may be able to be with family to celebrate July 4th... stop already... Look at the data - the TRUE data. How long has FLORIDA been belittled by the Media and many in D.C.??? I could go on, but will have to stop.
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[Vikingjunior]

Governor DeSantis already said "no to vaccine passports" although other states may implement it.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by Vikingjunior

Governor DeSantis already said "no to vaccine passports" although other states may implement it.

I do not live in those "other states". Nor do I visit them either.

[Dayeight99]

It’s not a vaccination against a virus. It is gene therapy. Completely different. Research and DD.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Just a word of warning to readers who have been infected by COVID and believe that they are now immune. It ain't necessarily so-- as my son and his wife found out the hard way, having been reinfected less than a year after their first bout. The ER doctor attributed the reinfection to one of the variants. He said that he had encountered no one reinfected with the original strain.

BTW, despite having been infected, they had been practicing the usual precautions-- until my son decided that it would be reasonably safe to fly on a ski trip, where he apparently picked up the reinfection and brought it home.

Fortunately, the reinfection, at least so far, has been a lot less severe that the first bout, and I only bring up their story in the hope that it will cause former COVID victims to continue to be careful.

The bottom line: achieving herd immunity may be more difficult than some had hoped.

My understanding of the variants is they are more easily transmitted but not as deadly, at least according to at least one study I saw. Don't recall where I saw it, sorry.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S.

My understanding of the variants is they are more easily transmitted but not as deadly, at least according to at least one study I saw. Don't recall where I saw it, sorry.

Most virus mutations go this route. Easier to transmit, less deadly. There are more deadly variants but they kill the host, so don't spread and usually have an R-naught of less than one, so ultimately die off.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

Just because you are vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t be infected by the coronavirus. The vaccine reduces the probability of being infected, by about 20x, but does not eliminate it. Conflating the coronavirus with HIV is not a rational thing to do. However, if you and the person next to you decide to become blood brothers by clenching hands after slicing your palms open then I guess you might contract the HIV virus if your new blood brother is infected.

Where did you get that information?

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Incredibly bad idea. Until someone can explain the logic of this, I'll do what I can to avoid any business that makes a vaccination a requirement.

"Wouldn't you want to know that the person next to you has been vaccinated?" No, it's none of my business and should be none of yours. I will be vaccinated against Covid so whatever goes on inside him will not affect me.

I consider this a very dangerous slippery slope. If this "vaccination passport" idea catches on then why would it stop at Covid? Once I have been vaccinated against Covid I would be far more likely to be affected by an individual with HIV. Do I have a right to know a person's HIV status? Can I demand that an airline or cruise only accept passengers who can prove they are HIV negative?

Once a "vaccination passport" is accepted there will be no limit to the number of things that can be put onto it. You're okay with Covid status on there today but tomorrow it might just be HIV status or something you are not okay with.

Thank you, what I do with my health is my business and only my business...people and their hysteria will not be making my healthcare decisions...nor knowing it..

[foxmeadow]

Originally Posted by charmed59

I see in Sumter county the percent of seniors vaccinated for COVID is leveling out at just over 60%. If we need 75% to hit herd immunity we’d need over 90% of those under 65 to be vaccinated, which seems unlikely.

Is there some number of seniors that intend to get vaccinated but haven’t yet? If so, what are they waiting for? I’m hopeful seeing the Villages Health is now inoculating their members.

How accurate can the Sumter County numbers be if so many of us were vaccinated in other counties? Sumter was way too late in getting their act together, while Lake, Marion and Orange counties were getting it done. I’m quite confident the numbers are much greater for Sumter residents.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Incredibly bad idea. Until someone can explain the logic of this, I'll do what I can to avoid any business that makes a vaccination a requirement.

"Wouldn't you want to know that the person next to you has been vaccinated?" No, it's none of my business and should be none of yours. I will be vaccinated against Covid so whatever goes on inside him will not affect me.

I consider this a very dangerous slippery slope. If this "vaccination passport" idea catches on then why would it stop at Covid? Once I have been vaccinated against Covid I would be far more likely to be affected by an individual with HIV. Do I have a right to know a person's HIV status? Can I demand that an airline or cruise only accept passengers who can prove they are HIV negative?

Once a "vaccination passport" is accepted there will be no limit to the number of things that can be put onto it. You're okay with Covid status on there today but tomorrow it might just be HIV status or something you are not okay with.

I disagree and would love to see mandatory vaccinations for cruises and flying. Its nothing new. Been going on for decades. Your kids can NOT attend school without having certain vaccinations. Why is that good for kids but not good for you to get vaccinated during a pandemic where hundreds of thousands have died?? There is a difference between divulging an illness and making vaccines mandatory to fly. HIV statement is totally unrelated. Would you sit next to someone on a plane who is coughing n sneezing all over without using a tissue?? NO. So, why would you feel its ok to sit next to someone who may be carrying a fatal virus?? Think about it!!

[72eagleman]

It has not leveled out. Their are well over 1,000 new seniors getting the vaccine every day.