[gobuck827]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Yes and NO!

Yes, on some/many circles, both the inside lane and the outside lane may exit.

NO, traffic entering from the left/inside lane MUST NOT take the exit to the right (1st exit, 3 o'clock exit, right hand turn, whatever you want to call it).

Never say never.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Yes and NO!

Yes, on some/many circles, both the inside lane and the outside lane may exit.

NO, traffic entering from the left/inside lane MUST NOT take the exit to the right (1st exit, 3 o'clock exit, right hand turn, whatever you want to call it).

The traffic signs and road markings show that at some circles, both the lanes may exit at the first right.

A dashed line and two exit lanes, as well as the arrows on the sign, show this clearly.

Are the signs and road markings lying?

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Everyone has issues understanding this because NEITHER LANE HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY! Neither lane *needs* the right of way if the simple, common sense directions are followed.

The only time right of way that comes into play is when yielding to traffic already in the circle - BOTH LANES. Don't enter when traffic is approaching or you could be hit. Don't enter when traffic is in the inside lane because that lane might be exiting and you could be hit. Simply yield to any/all traffic already in the circle or you could be hit.

Some of the signs clearly show lane 1 and 2 can both exit the circle at both the first and second exit. Two lanes leaving the circle are there to ensure this can happen.

How does the person in lane 1 stay in his exit lane if lane 2 is allowed to block the exit?

[JanRoberts]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

On all the hundreds of RB threads over the years on TOTV, many blamed so-called "snowbirds" for most of the bonehead driving there. A popular rebuttal is "We're from Massachusetts, we know how to drive roundabouts". Having just returned from Mass., I can assure you, YOU DO NOT!!!! No different there than here, maybe even worse.

When the snowbirds are here there's just more of everything that's always here when they're not!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

On all the hundreds of RB threads over the years on TOTV, many blamed so-called "snowbirds" for most of the bonehead driving there. A popular rebuttal is "We're from Massachusetts, we know how to drive roundabouts". Having just returned from Mass., I can assure you, YOU DO NOT!!!! No different there than here, maybe even worse.

GREAT, now you are up to 80 posts on a RB thread in 2025.

Originally Posted by JanRoberts

When the snowbirds are here there's just more of everything that's always here when they're not!

Except for groceries and parking.

[Normal]

And:road space, open restaurant seating, tee times and quietness.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

GREAT, now you are up to 80 posts on a RB thread in 2025.

sorry.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

The traffic signs and road markings show that at some circles, both the lanes may exit at the first right.

A dashed line and two exit lanes, as well as the arrows on the sign, show this clearly.

Are the signs and road markings lying?

Which circle have a sign showing the innermost lane can take the first exit? What I *have* seen are single-lane circles where the *only* lane can exit right along with a right-lane bypass for the circle. The right traffic lane never enters the circle. I suspect the circle in the picture above is an example of that.

The lane markings are accurate yet deceiving at the same time. A vehicle in the inside lane approaching from the left may exit to your right, this is what the markings show. Traffic entering from the left lane into the inside lane is NOT allowed to take a right and follow that vehicle.

Don’t try to complicate things.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Some of the signs clearly show lane 1 and 2 can both exit the circle at both the first and second exit. Two lanes leaving the circle are there to ensure this can happen.

How does the person in lane 1 stay in his exit lane if lane 2 is allowed to block the exit?

Let’s get away from “some” and give the particular circle where this occurs. It isn’t Morse and 44 and it isn’t Hillsborough and Buena Vista. Where is it?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JanRoberts

When the snowbirds are here there's just more of everything that's always here when they're not!

You don't see over crowding as a problem? Certainly there is more stress and anxiety. More cars, carts, bikes clogging the roads and parking lots. More people driving dangerously and irresponsibly. More drunks on the roads. More rudeness, pushieness, entitlement, dare I include dogs crapping in the neighbors yard, etc. Yep, you're right. More of the same crap. When does More become too much? One thing that there is less of is quality of life. Like an over crowded cruise ship, there is not enough personal space or quiet spots. But that is just my opinion.

[Keithtama]

One lane roundabout in Marstons Mills, Cape Cod near old Barnstable Fairgrounds.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by gobuck827

Never say never.

Is that South Buena Vista at the circle with South Buena Vista (a traffic circle instead of a bend in the road)? The right lane never enters that circle. The left lane becomes the single/only lane in the circle. With only a single lane in the circle, that single lane can take any of the exits.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Which circle have a sign showing the innermost lane can take the first exit? What I *have* seen are single-lane circles where the *only* lane can exit right along with a right-lane bypass for the circle. The right traffic lane never enters the circle. I suspect the circle in the picture above is an example of that.

The lane markings are accurate yet deceiving at the same time. A vehicle in the inside lane approaching from the left may exit to your right, this is what the markings show. Traffic entering from the left lane into the inside lane is NOT allowed to take a right and follow that vehicle.

Don’t try to complicate things.

There are different circles with different rules. A newer driver may not realize that not every circle is the same and take for granted or generalize ,”What’s the same for traffic circle A is the same for the rest of them.”

Compounding the issue would be the dashed lines which give the option for two adjacent lanes to either maintain a straight forward bypass of an exit and also permit either lane to turn. Meggison and Morse have this. If an outside driver wishes to continue straight, they are in for a rude surprise if the inside lane driver decides to turn off to the right.

[Birdrm]

Where I grew up in NJ they had a roundabout (circle) where RT 1 split between highway and local and that was over 50 years ago!